English equivalents of German (pub. Springer) textbooks

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The discussion revolves around finding English equivalents for notable German physics textbooks, specifically those by Nolting and Demtroeder, which are recognized for their rigor and detail at the undergraduate level. Participants explore various alternatives and translations available in English, as well as the quality and comprehensiveness of these texts.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express familiarity with Nolting and Demtroeder's textbooks, noting their rigorous approach compared to English counterparts like Zemansky and Freedman's "University Physics".
  • One participant recommends the Greiner books as similar in spirit to Nolting's works, while expressing a strong personal preference against recommending the Nolting series.
  • Another participant mentions M. Bartelmann et al.'s "Theoretische Physik" as a comprehensive recent German textbook covering various topics in theoretical physics, though it is noted to be heavy and available as an ebook.
  • There is a request for links to the Greiner books, with some participants confirming their availability in English and discussing the lack of English translations for Nolting's works.
  • One participant claims that Nolting's textbooks are now available in English, providing a link to a specific product.
  • Another participant inquires about the series by Torsten Fließbach, suggesting interest in additional recommendations.
  • Some participants express positive opinions about Fließbach's textbooks, particularly in General Relativity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the recognition of Nolting and Demtroeder's textbooks as standards in German physics education, but there is disagreement regarding the recommendation of Nolting's series. Multiple competing views exist regarding the best alternatives in English, and the availability of translations remains a point of contention.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various textbooks and their characteristics, but there are unresolved questions about the completeness and availability of translations for certain titles. The discussion reflects a range of personal preferences and experiences with the textbooks mentioned.

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Hi,
anyone who studied in Germany will be familiar with the theoretical and experimental physics books written by Nolting and Demtroeder respectively. These books are really the standard at undergraduate level but are much more rigorous and detailed than a lot of English language textbooks, e.g. Zemansky and Freedman's "University Physics" which my current university recommends to its undergrads. So are there any similar books in English to "Grundkurs Theoretische Physik" and "Experimentalphysik". Thank you for your replies.
 
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The Greiner books are translated to English (also in the Springer Verlag). They are pretty similar in spirit, but I'd never ever recommend the Nolting series ;-)). The best very recent German textbook for theory is

M. Bartelmann et al., Theoretische Physik, Springer (2015)

It covers the entire European Bachelor stuff: (classical mechanics including special relativity, classical electrodynamics including special relativity, quantum mechanics (non-relativistic), thermodynamics and statistics (including quantum statistics)

The only drawback is that it is all in one volume and is quite heavy. It's also available as an ebook, which is much easier to carry around :-).

I only hope that the authors take the effort to write also further books on the master level (relativistic QFT, non-equilibrium/kinetic theory can only become great with these authors!).
 
Thanks. I did like Nolting a lot, he was my go to series. I remember Greiner but I never used him much, perhaps my loss :-) The English versions look good though.
 
vanhees71 said:
The Greiner books are translated to English (also in the Springer Verlag). They are pretty similar in spirit, but I'd never ever recommend the Nolting series ;-)).
Could you please provide a link? I can't find them. Is Nolting also trans. to english?
 
Anama Skout said:
Could you please provide a link? I can't find them. Is Nolting also trans. to english?
Nolting is not available in English - just German!
 
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If you don't mind me barging into the thread.
vanhees71 said:
The best very recent German textbook for theory is

M. Bartelmann et al., Theoretische Physik, Springer (2015)
@vanhees71 -- what can you say about the series of books by Torsten Fließbach?
 
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These are also very nice. I also like his textbook on General Relativity.
 

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