EOM for Pendulum hanging from spring

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The discussion focuses on deriving the equations of motion for a pendulum attached to a spring, utilizing both Newton's and Lagrange's mechanics. The user has successfully formulated the Lagrange equations but is struggling with the Newtonian approach, particularly in summing forces and torques. They have established the equations for vertical forces and rotational dynamics but feel that their Newtonian solution is incomplete. The user has defined the coordinate system with positive y as upward and counterclockwise moments as positive. The conversation highlights the challenge of transitioning from Newton's equations to Lagrange's while considering the constraints of the system.
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Homework Statement


Derive Newton's and Lagrange's equation of motion for the system. Discuss differences and show how Newton's equations can be reduced to lagrange's equations. Assume arbitrarily large θ.

The system is a pendulum consisting of a massless rod of length L with a mass m attached to the end. The point of rotation is attached to a spring of stiffness k which is then attached to the ceiling and constrained to move in the y direction.

I have acquired what i believe to be the solution for the Lagrange EOM but am hung up on the Newtonian solution.

Homework Equations


Newtonian mechanics

The Attempt at a Solution


summing forces in the y direction i get my''-ky+mg=0 and summing toques about the rotation point i get mL2θ''+mgLsin(θ)=0

i defined positive y as going upward and positive moments as counterclockwise

I feel like this is incomplete and I am missing something.

For reference the lagrange EOM i got is 0=ML2θ'' + mLsin(θ)y'' + mLcos(θ)y'θ' - mL2θ'-mLsin(θ)y'
 
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The set up looks like this diagram, with the spring's motion being confined to the y direction:

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