Equality between centrifugal force and V

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The discussion centers on the equation mv^2/r = |dV/dr|, which relates centrifugal force to the gradient of potential. Participants clarify that the left side represents centrifugal force, while the right side involves the potential's gradient, possibly indicating gravitational or electric potential. There is confusion about the equality, with suggestions that it should be expressed as mv^2/r = |dU/dr| for clarity. The conversation highlights the connection between centripetal acceleration and the concept of force derived from potential gradients. The relevance of calculus in understanding these relationships is also noted, particularly in educational contexts.
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Hi everyone,

Today in a question I saw an equality like this but I couldn't figure out how they are equal? Can anyonu help me please?

mv^2/ r = | dV/dr |
 
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What do the various symbols in this equality represent?
 
I can't figure it out either, probably because they are not equal. If the equation was: m*v^2/r = dv/dr*m then they would be equal.
 
In the left side of the equation is the known centrifugal force. m--mass,v--velocity,r--radius,on the right side V is the potential,r--radius
 
Are you working at a level where you can relate forces to gradients of potential?
 
soul said:
Hi everyone,

Today in a question I saw an equality like this but I couldn't figure out how they are equal? Can anyonu help me please?

mv^2/ r = | dV/dr |

Hi soul! :smile:

Could that be mv^2/ r = | dU/dr |, where U is the gravitational or electric potential?
 
Yes, tiny-tim.it is. I think I am not good enough to express myself. Thank you.
 
Writing mv^2/ r = | dV/dr | is like writing ma=F (which you might be more familiar with?). Does this help?
 
Could you explain it in a more detailed way, please,JimChampion?
 
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F=ma is a common way of expressing Newton's second law of motion for an object with constant mass m.

The mv^2/ r = | dV/dr | is equivalent to writing ma=F because

v^2/r is the centripetal acceleration

|dV/dr| is the magnitude of the centripetal force (given by the gradient of the potential V)
 
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I don't really know what level of explanation you're after!

When I did A-level physics (in the UK, 1994) knowing about potential and how it relates to force was part of the course. I now teach A-level physics, and this is no longer part of the course: anything with calculus is avoided and probably wouldn't be encountered unless you studied an undergraduate physics course.
 
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