Equation of Gravity's Acceleration Misunderstanding

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The discussion centers around the equation for vertical displacement under gravity, specifically addressing the role of the factor 0.5 in the equation "y=0.5gt^2" and its implications for understanding displacement due to gravitational acceleration. Participants explore the relationship between constant acceleration and displacement, as well as the application of these concepts in different contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the necessity of the 0.5 in the displacement equation, comparing it to constant velocity scenarios.
  • Another participant explains that the 0.5 arises from calculating displacement based on average velocity when acceleration is present, using an example with an object dropped from rest.
  • A participant clarifies that if there is zero acceleration, the 0.5 factor is not applicable, leading to a different displacement equation.
  • Further discussion includes the interpretation of variables in the displacement equation, such as initial velocity (v0) and initial displacement (x0), and their relevance in one-dimensional motion.
  • Participants note that the equations of motion can apply in multiple dimensions, particularly in projectile motion problems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding regarding the role of the 0.5 factor in the displacement equation, with some agreeing on its significance in the context of changing velocity, while others raise questions about its necessity in scenarios of constant velocity. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the broader implications of these equations in different contexts.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about initial conditions, such as initial velocity and displacement, are not explicitly stated, which may affect the application of the discussed equations. The discussion also does not resolve how these concepts translate to different coordinate systems or dimensions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for students and individuals interested in understanding the principles of motion under gravity, particularly those grappling with the mathematical representation of displacement in physics.

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Hello physics forum!

As a youngster, it is a great honor to be surrounded by innocent minds. For this, thank you.

Now, my question:

I understand that the equation for vertical displacement caused by gravity is "y=0.5gt^2" or "y=-4.9t^2" in meters or"y=-16t^2" in feet. I have yet to understand why where is a 0.5 in the equation. It is to my understanding that if an object moves at for simplicity, 10 m/s, its displacement will increase by 10 m per second in the same direction. For example, an object in space throw initially at 5 m/s will travel 5 m in the first second, then 10 m away from the initial point in 2 seconds, and so forth. Gravity is a constant acceleration, by -9.8 m/s^2 or -32 ft/s^2. The velocity changes by these rates, depending on which unit. An object dropped will travel, in one second, -9.8 m/s downward, then -19.6 m/s, then -29.4 m/s. But when dealing with displacement, 0.5 is introduced...why?
 
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It has to do with figuring out displacement based on a changing velocity.

For example (I am using feet for simplicity), if you hold an object and drop it, the initial velocity is zero, but after one second, the object has accelerated under the influence of gravity to 32 ft/s. How far has the object traveled in that same 1 second? Since the initial velocity is 0 and the velocity at t = 1 s is 32 ft/s, assuming a constant change in velocity in between, it would be reasonable to say that the distance traveled would be the average velocity multiplied by the duration, or:

dist = Vavg * delta T

In this case, delta T = 1 sec., and Vavg = (Vi + Vf) / 2

Plugging in what we have calculated so far:

dist = [(0 + 32) / 2] ft/s * 1 s = 16 feet.

For t = 1 s to 2 s, a similar calculation is followed, but vi = 32 ft/s

A similar result can be obtained using calculus.
 
Oh! I understand!

But if the velocity is constant as in zero acceleration is involved, such as (theoretically) in space, the displacement is the same as the velocity each second?
 
If your acceleration is zero, then the .5 goes away. The full equation for displacement is:

x= .5 g t2 + V0t + X0
 
In that equation, I presume that the output "x" is only for one dimension and can be used for both horizontal and vertical? And that x0 is the initial point that you begin from?
 
Just like v0 is the initial velocity, x0 is the initial displacement.

The equations of motion can be applied in all three coordinate directions. You will notice that there are quite a few projectile motion problems in the Physics Homework section, and a lot of these problems involve motion in two directions.
 
Welcome to PF, Greatness.

Usually -- but not always -- the initial displacement x0 is taken to be zero in intro physics problems.
 

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