Equation w/ Homogeneous Coefficients - y=ux substitution

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The discussion revolves around a differential equation with homogeneous coefficients, specifically the equation (x+y)dx - (x-y)dy = 0. The original poster is exploring the substitution y=ux and its implications for solving the equation.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the substitution method and its transformation into a separable equation. There are attempts to integrate the resulting expressions, with some questioning the handling of logarithmic terms and the integration process. Others suggest considering alternative methods, such as polar coordinates, to simplify the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and insights. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of polar coordinates as a potential approach, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method to resolve the integration issues raised.

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Participants note the challenge of integrating certain terms and the importance of not skipping over problems that arise in similar contexts, such as isogonal trajectories. The original poster emphasizes their self-study context, indicating that this is not a formal homework assignment.

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Differential Equation w/ Homogeneous Coefficients - y=ux substitution

I am teaching myself, this problem is from ODEs by Tenenbaum and Pollard. This is not homework for a class.

Homework Statement



(x+y){dx} - (x-y){dy} = 0

Homework Equations



y=ux, {dy} = u{dx} + x{du}

The Attempt at a Solution



Substitution should lead to a separable equation in x and u:

(x+ux){dx} + (ux - x)(u{dx} + x{du}) = 0;
x(u+1)dx + u2x{dx} + ux2{du} - ux{dx} - x2{du} = 0;
xu(2){dx} + x2(u - 1){du} = 0;
-1/x{dx} = (u - 1)/(u2 + 1){du}

Okay, I am assuming that I am correct up to this point but the answer given by the text is:

Arc tan(y/x) - 1/2log(x2 + y2) = c

I understand where the Arc tan(y/x) comes from - the (1/(u2 + 1)). I am having trouble with the 1/2 log(x2 + y2) - where does the -log(x) go?

I have a couple of other problems in the same form as this which arise in isogonal trajectories and I don't want to just skip over this because I am obviously having a problem with these integrations.
 
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ZachN said:
I am teaching myself, this problem is from ODEs by Tenenbaum and Pollard. This is not homework for a class.

Homework Statement



(x+y){dx} - (x-y){dy} = 0

Homework Equations



y=ux, {dy} = u{dx} + x{du}

The Attempt at a Solution



Substitution should lead to a separable equation in x and u:

(x+ux){dx} + (ux - x)(u{dx} + x{du}) = 0;
x(u+1)dx + u2x{dx} + ux2{du} - ux{dx} - x2{du} = 0;
xu(2){dx} + x2(u - 1){du} = 0;
-1/x{dx} = (u - 1)/(u2 + 1){du}
so -1/x dx= u/(u2+ 1)du - 1/(u2+1 du
The left side give -ln(x), of course. Then anti-derivative of -1/(u2+ 1) is -arctan(u) but to integrate u/(u2+ 1) let v= u2+ 1, dv= 2udu and the integral becomes udu/(u2+ 1)= dv/(2v)= (1/2)ln(v)= (1/2) ln(u2+ 1)= (1/2)ln((y2/x2+ 1)= (1/2)ln((x2+ y2)/x2= (1/2)ln(x2+ y2)- ln(x).

Okay, I am assuming that I am correct up to this point but the answer given by the text is:

Arc tan(y/x) - 1/2log(x2 + y2) = c

I understand where the Arc tan(y/x) comes from - the (1/(u2 + 1)). I am having trouble with the 1/2 log(x2 + y2) - where does the -log(x) go?

I have a couple of other problems in the same form as this which arise in isogonal trajectories and I don't want to just skip over this because I am obviously having a problem with these integrations.
 
Yes, thank you - I was not splitting up the ration into two equations and then integrating. I will try to be more observant from now on.
 
ZachN said:
(x+y){dx} - (x-y){dy} = 0

the answer given by the text is:

Arc tan(y/x) - 1/2log(x2 + y2) = c

Hi ZachN! :smile:

As an alternative method … always look at the answer … it may give you a clue as to an easy substitution …

in this case, the answer uses tan-1y/x and x2 + y2, so the obvious substitution is into polar coordinates, r and θ.

Try it and see. :smile:
 
I'll try polar coordinates.
 

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