Equation with two unknowns in complex exponential

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a mathematical model related to reverse kinematics in robotics, specifically focusing on an equation involving complex exponentials with two unknowns, θ and α. Participants explore the relationship between these angles based on the geometry of a kinematic lever.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents an equation involving complex exponentials to model the relationship between angles and lengths in a robotic leg.
  • Another participant notes that the problem is underdefined due to having one equation with two unknowns, suggesting multiple solutions may exist.
  • A different participant proposes a rearrangement of the original equation to express θ in terms of α, indicating a potential solution modulo 2π.
  • A correction is made to the equation, introducing a known variable β and clarifying the relationship between the angles and the complex number representing the tip vector.
  • One participant expresses a desire to find an exact functional relationship between θ and α, indicating a need for further exploration of the problem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that the problem is underdefined and that multiple solutions may exist. However, there is no consensus on the exact relationship between θ and α, as different interpretations and approaches are presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the underdefinition of the problem, as well as the dependence on the specific forms of the equations presented. The introduction of additional variables may also affect the interpretation of the relationships.

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hello friends,
when i build the mathmatical model of robot,i face a new question that i ever seen before.
i have a reverse kinematic lever as the leg and i want to use the tip position to get the relationship of fold angle and rotate angle reversely
here is my equation:
x*e^iθ - y*e^iθ * e^-iα + z*e^iθ = d
x is the known length of first section of kinematic lever
y is the known length of second section of kinematic lever
z is the known length of third section of kinematic lever
d is the known length from {0,0} (which is the pin point of kinematic lever rotation point) to kinematic lever tip
i want to find the exact relation of θ and α

could you help me to get the result of the equation? thanks.
 
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One equation and two unknowns. The problem is underdefined and there is more than one solution.
 
If I'm parsing your equation correctly, it can be rearranged to say [tex]e^{i\theta}= \frac{d}{x+z - ye^{-i\alpha}}[/tex] which pins down [itex]\theta[/itex] (modulo [itex]2\pi[/itex]) for any given value of [itex]\alpha[/itex].
 
sorry,i made a mistake,the correct equation should be :
x*e^iθ - y*e^-iθ * e^-iα + z*e^iθ = d*e^iβ
d*e^iβ is the complex number of pin to tip vector,which β is known.
to DrClaude,
yes it may be have two answer,i just need the exact relation of θ and α.
 
to economicsnerd,
thanks for your answer, but it would go further,and get the f(θ) = α
 

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