Error in Vector Addition: U & V Perpendicular

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The discussion revolves around the error in vector addition involving two unitary vectors U and V that are perpendicular. Participants explore the implications of a vector W that satisfies the equation W ^ V = U - W, analyzing the components and operations involved in the vector cross-product.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a scenario with vectors U and V, stating that W is defined such that W ^ V = U - W, and seeks to identify an error in their resolution process.
  • Another participant questions the notation used, suggesting that the symbol ^ represents the vector cross-product, and proposes a linear combination representation of W in terms of U, V, and their cross-product.
  • Further elaboration includes the application of vector cross-product rules, leading to a set of equations derived from the original expression.
  • A participant identifies a potential sign error in the cross-product calculation of the vector components.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake regarding the signs and the arrangement of numbers in their calculations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial error, but there is acknowledgment of mistakes in calculations and notation. The discussion remains open with multiple viewpoints on the correct approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the notation and the specific steps taken in the vector calculations, which may depend on the definitions and interpretations of vector operations.

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i have two unitary vectors in space U and V , U and V are perpendicular .
W is a vector that verifies W ^ V = U - W .
the following resolution is incorrect , i wan't to understand why :

we use (o,U,V,(U^V)) . components of U (1,0,0) , V(0,1,0) , W(a,b,c) where a , b and c are real numbers .
components of W ^ V ( c , 0 , a) . and U - W ( 1-a , -b, -c)
where is the error here ?
 
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Amine_prince said:
i have two unitary vectors in space U and V , U and V are perpendicular .
W is a vector that verifies W ^ V = U - W .
the following resolution is incorrect , i wan't to understand why :

we use (o,U,V,(U^V)) . components of U (1,0,0) , V(0,1,0) , W(a,b,c) where a , b and c are real numbers .
components of W ^ V ( c , 0 , a) . and U - W ( 1-a , -b, -c)
where is the error here ?

I'm not sure about your notation: ^ means vector cross-product? I've always used \times

If so, then you are on the right track. U, V, U \times V can be used as an orthonormal basis. So we can write W as a linear combination:

W = a U + b V + c (U \times V)

Then W \times V = U - W becomes:

(a U + b V + c (U \times V)) \times V = U - a U - b V - c (U \times V)

Now, we use the rules:
X \times X = 0
(X \times Y) \times Z = (X \cdot Z) V - X (Y \cdot Z)

where \cdot is the vector scalar product.

Applying these rules gives us:
a U \times V + 0 + c (U \cdot V) V - c U (V \cdot V) = U - a U - bV - c (U \times V)

This simplifies to:
a U \times V - c U = (1-a)U - b V - c(U \times V)

So if you just pair up the corresponding orthogonal vectors, this gives three equations:
  1. a = -c
  2. 0 = -b
  3. -c = (1-a)
 
thank you sir :)
 
Amine_prince said:
thank you sir :)
Looking at what you wrote, I think that your problem is that

(a, b, c) \times (0,1,0) = (-c, 0, a)
 
yes , i missed the sign . and flipped the numbers by mistake .
 

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