Evaluate both sides of divergence theorem

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The discussion revolves around evaluating both sides of the divergence theorem for a vector field in cylindrical coordinates. The field is defined as D = 6ρsin(θ/2)ap + 1.5ρcos(θ/2)aθ C/m^2, and the region of interest is bounded by specific cylindrical coordinates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the evaluation of the surface integral and the divergence integral, noting discrepancies in results. Questions arise regarding the components of the surface area and whether all parts of the surface are being considered in the calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have identified potential issues with the surface integral evaluation, suggesting that additional components of the surface may need to be included. There is acknowledgment of a coordinate conversion that could clarify the missing contributions to the integral.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working within the constraints of cylindrical coordinates and are addressing the implications of having zero components for certain surfaces based on the given vector field. The discussion reflects on the completeness of the surface area considered in the integral evaluation.

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Homework Statement



NOTE: don't know see the phi symbol so I used theta. this is cylindrical coordinates not spherical.

Given the field D = 6ρsin(θ/2)ap + 1.5ρcos(θ/2)aθ C/m^2 , evaluate both sides of the divergence theorem for the region bounded by ρ=2, θ=0 to ∏, and z = 0 to 5

Homework Equations



∫D * dS = ∫ ∇ * D dV

The Attempt at a Solution



The answer (to both sides of course) is 225. I figured out how to do the divergence side, but I'm having problems evaluating the left (surface) side. The way I'm doing it is that the z-component is zero since the equation for D only has a rho and phi.

From here I'm evaluating ∫∫Dp*pdθdZ from 0 to pi for dθ and 0 to 5 for dz.

I plug in p = 2 as an "initial condition", and when I calculate the integral through I keep getting 240 even though the answer is 225. Any ideas what's going on? Maybe my integral is just wrong
 
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acsol said:

Homework Statement



NOTE: don't know see the phi symbol so I used theta. this is cylindrical coordinates not spherical.

Given the field D = 6ρsin(θ/2)ap + 1.5ρcos(θ/2)aθ C/m^2 , evaluate both sides of the divergence theorem for the region bounded by ρ=2, θ=0 to ∏, and z = 0 to 5

Homework Equations



∫D * dS = ∫ ∇ * D dV

The Attempt at a Solution



The answer (to both sides of course) is 225. I figured out how to do the divergence side, but I'm having problems evaluating the left (surface) side. The way I'm doing it is that the z-component is zero since the equation for D only has a rho and phi.

From here I'm evaluating ∫∫Dp*pdθdZ from 0 to pi for dθ and 0 to 5 for dz.

I plug in p = 2 as an "initial condition", and when I calculate the integral through I keep getting 240 even though the answer is 225. Any ideas what's going on? Maybe my integral is just wrong

You are only integrating over part of the surface. You have half a cylinder, it also has a top, a bottom and a flat side. You are only doing the rounded side. Can you picture it? What other part of the surface might contribute to your integral?
 
Hmm. I thought about that but my answer didn't really change and here's why:

The cylinder has 4 sides, right? Rounded, opposite of rounded (flat), top, and bottom. However, from the given equation for D, we only have a rho and phi component. That automatically makes the top and bottom zero.

WAIT, are you saying that I need to do a coordinate conversion and then calculate the surface dxdz?
 
acsol said:
Hmm. I thought about that but my answer didn't really change and here's why:

The cylinder has 4 sides, right? Rounded, opposite of rounded (flat), top, and bottom. However, from the given equation for D, we only have a rho and phi component. That automatically makes the top and bottom zero.

WAIT, are you saying that I need to do a coordinate conversion and then calculate the surface dxdz?

Exactly. That's where you'll find the -15 missing units of surface flux. Very sharp of you to figure out how to do it. You are almost there.
 
Took a while but got it right :approve:

Thanks for the help mate!
 

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