Evaluate the line integral by two methods

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves evaluating the line integral \(\oint_C {xy^2 \,dx\, + \,x^3 \,dy}\) over a rectangular path defined by the vertices (0,0), (2,0), (2,3), and (0,3). Participants are tasked with solving it using two methods: directly and via Green's Theorem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to parametrize the line segments of the rectangle to evaluate the integral directly but expresses uncertainty about transitioning from the line integral to the parametric form. Other participants suggest considering the components of the vector field and how they relate to the path segments.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the relationship between the differential elements \(dx\) and \(dy\) and how they relate to the parametrization of the path. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of setting \(dy\) to zero along certain segments of the path.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to evaluate the integral over multiple segments of the path and the implications of using Green's Theorem versus direct evaluation.

tony873004
Science Advisor
Gold Member
Messages
1,753
Reaction score
143

Homework Statement


Evaluate the line integral by two methods: (a) directly and (b) using Green's Theorem. [tex]\oint_C {xy^2 \,dx\, + \,x^3 \,dy}[/tex]. C is the rectangle with vertices (0,0), (2,0), (2,3) and (0,3).

The Attempt at a Solution


I get the correct answer using Green's theorem. But I don't know how to do the "directly" method. I came up with 4 parametric equations, one for each line of the rectangle. Let's look at the first one for the line (0,0) - (2,0): x=t, y=0, t goes between 0 and 2.

[tex]\oint_C {xy^2 \,dx\, + \,x^3 \,dy} = \int\limits_0^2 {t\left( 0 \right)^2 \,\, + \,t^3 \,dt} = \int\limits_0^2 {t^3 \,dt} = \left[ {\frac{{t^4 }}{4}} \right]_0^2 = \left( {\frac{{2^4 }}{4}} \right) - \left( {\frac{{0^4 }}{4}} \right) = \frac{{16}}{4} = 4[/tex].

I'm pretty sure I did this step wrong. How do I go from the C integral to the 2-0 integral?

Thanks


Homework Equations


 
Physics news on Phys.org
Think of [tex]{xy^2 \,dx\, + \,x^3 \,dy}[/tex] as the dot product of the vectors [tex](dx,dy)[/tex] and [tex](xy^2, x^3)[/tex]. On the x axis, the x component is zero, so the integral from (0,0) to (0,2) should be zero.
 
sorry, I still don't understand. How do I get from dx+dy to dt?
 
tony873004 said:

Homework Statement


Evaluate the line integral by two methods: (a) directly and (b) using Green's Theorem. [tex]\oint_C {xy^2 \,dx\, + \,x^3 \,dy}[/tex]. C is the rectangle with vertices (0,0), (2,0), (2,3) and (0,3).

The Attempt at a Solution


I get the correct answer using Green's theorem. But I don't know how to do the "directly" method. I came up with 4 parametric equations, one for each line of the rectangle. Let's look at the first one for the line (0,0) - (2,0): x=t, y=0, t goes between 0 and 2.

[tex]\oint_C {xy^2 \,dx\, + \,x^3 \,dy} = \int\limits_0^2 {t\left( 0 \right)^2 \,\, + \,t^3 \,dt} = \int\limits_0^2 {t^3 \,dt} = \left[ {\frac{{t^4 }}{4}} \right]_0^2 = \left( {\frac{{2^4 }}{4}} \right) - \left( {\frac{{0^4 }}{4}} \right) = \frac{{16}}{4} = 4[/tex].

I'm pretty sure I did this step wrong. How do I go from the C integral to the 2-0 integral?

Thanks


Homework Equations



Your line is along the x-axis so dy is zero for that section of the rectangle!
 
tony873004 said:
sorry, I still don't understand. How do I get from dx+dy to dt?
So you have paremerised the line,

[tex]x = t \Rightarrow \frac{dx}{dt} = 1 \Rightarrow dx = dx[/tex]

[tex]y = 0 \Rightarrow dy = 0[/tex]

Do you follow?
 
Thanks, I think I'm getting it now. So in the next line segment (the right vertical one), dx is zero, so

[tex]\oint_C {xy^2 \,dx\, + \,x^3 \,dy} = \int\limits_0^3 {2t^2 \left( 0 \right)\, + \,2^3 \,dt} = \int\limits_0^3 {8\,dt} = \left[ {8t} \right]_0^3 = 24[/tex]
 
tony873004 said:
Thanks, I think I'm getting it now. So in the next line segment (the right vertical one), dx is zero, so

[tex]\oint_C {xy^2 \,dx\, + \,x^3 \,dy} = \int\limits_0^3 {2t^2 \left( 0 \right)\, + \,2^3 \,dt} = \int\limits_0^3 {8\,dt} = \left[ {8t} \right]_0^3 = 24[/tex]
Looks good to me :approve:.

Although from a formalism point of view, I will point out that it isn't technically correct to say that your path integral is equal to the integral over this segment, but I know what you mean.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 105 ·
4
Replies
105
Views
11K
Replies
12
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
1K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K
Replies
12
Views
5K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
3K