Every straight line has no length

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The discussion revolves around a problem in combinatorial geometry, specifically regarding the division of a plane by infinitely long straight lines that are neither parallel nor intersect at a single point. The objective is to demonstrate that the number of regions formed by these lines can be expressed as (n^2+n+2)/2 for n lines.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the base case for n=1 and attempt to establish a relationship for k+1 lines based on the assumption that the formula holds for k lines. There is discussion about the difference in regions created when adding an additional line.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the inductive reasoning process, suggesting that if the formula holds for k, it should also hold for k+1. However, there is uncertainty regarding the justification of the transition from P(k) to P(k+1), indicating that the discussion is ongoing and participants are seeking clarity on this point.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the informal nature of the justification needed for the induction step, which some participants find challenging. The original poster expresses confusion about relating the cases and the reasoning behind the differences in the number of regions created.

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ok i stuck guys here is the question.

Consideer n infinitely long straight lines. none are parrelel and no three are lines have a common intersection. show that for N>=1, the lines divide the plane into (n^2+n+2)/2.

kay I am stuck kay i now base case works.

I know that k=(k^2+k+2)/2

but how do relate that to k+1 lines... I am stuck.
I can't get them to relate for some reason.. what the trick i am missing.
 
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lemurs said:
ok i stuck guys here is the question.

Consideer n infinitely long straight lines. none are parrelel and no three are lines have a common intersection. show that for N>=1, the lines divide the plane into (n^2+n+2)/2.

kay I am stuck kay i now base case works.

I know that k=(k^2+k+2)/2

but how do relate that to k+1 lines... I am stuck.
I can't get them to relate for some reason.. what the trick i am missing.

First of all, every straight line has no length. But if you pick two different points A and B on the line, then \overline{AB} has a length.

Now, for n = 1 it is obvious that the line 'divides' the plane into two parts. Assume it's true for some k. You have to show it's true for some k+1, too. If it is, then it is true for every n. So, you have to find a way to show that for k+1, you have \frac{(k+1)^2+(k+1)+2}{2} = \frac{k^2+3k+4}{2}. Here's a way. First, let's assume P(k) = \frac{k^2+k+2}{2} is true for some k. Then look at the difference P(k+1) - P(k) = k+1. That means that the plane is divided into k+1 more parts than it is divided for some k. For example, if you take k = 2, and k = 3, you get that for k = 2 the plane is divided into 4 parts, and for k' = 3 it is divided into 7 parts. So, 7 - 4 = 3 = k + 1. Now, use that fact to prove the statement is true for some k+1. You have \frac{k^2+k+2}{2} + k+1 = \cdots The rest is obvious. :smile:
 
ok.. but how.. not making sense. I how would I jsutiify p(k+1) - P(K). that is not as easy..
 
lemurs said:
ok.. but how.. not making sense. I how would I jsutiify p(k+1) - P(K). that is not as easy..

You don't have to justify it. It is not a formal part of induction. You showed that for some k+1 the statement P(k+1) holds, and that's all you need to do.
 
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