Line integral of straight lines path (quick question)

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The discussion revolves around evaluating a line integral of a vector field along specified paths in three-dimensional space. The vector field is given as F = (2y+3)i + xzj + (yz-x)k, and the paths consist of straight lines connecting points in a defined sequence. Additionally, there is a mention of a different problem involving the line integral along an arc of a circle in the first quadrant.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the parameterization of the paths C1, C2, and C3, questioning the correctness of their expressions for x, y, and z along these paths. There is also a shift to a different problem regarding the arc of a circle, where assumptions about parameterization are questioned.

Discussion Status

Some participants provide guidance on using the appropriate parameterization for each curve during calculations. There is acknowledgment of a potential coincidence in results when using a specific parameterization for the circular arc, and a participant expresses understanding of the concepts discussed.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of homework constraints and the need to adhere to specific parameterizations for line integrals. The discussion includes a correction regarding the limits of integration for the circular arc problem.

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Homework Statement


Hello,

I have a quick question about the following problem
F = (2y+3)i+xzj+(yz-x)k
and straight lines from (0,0,0) to (0,0,1) to (0,1,1) to (2,1,1)

Considering C1 is the line from (0,0,0) to (0,0,1)
C2 is the line from (0,0,1) to (0,1,1)
and C3 is the line from (0,1,1) to (2,1,1)

Is it right to consider x , y , z as follows
C1 --> x = 0 , y = 0 , z = t
C2 --> x = 0 , y = t , z = 1
C3 --> x = 2t , y=1, z= 1
t from 0 to 1
r = 2ti + j + k
and dr/dt = 2i
c F.dr/dt = ∫ c ((2+3)i + 2tj +(1-2t)k).(2i) dt = [10t]01 = 10 ?
Which is the right answer just I am not sure about the t notation.

Thanks
 
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You have to use the r associated with each curve in your calculations. So when your traversing ##C_i##you use ##r_i##. Equations below assuming the ##C_1,C_2,C_3## given by you.

##\vec{r_1} = (0,0,t)##
##\vec{r_2} = (0,t,1)##
##\vec{r_3} = (2t,1,1)##

Always remember that ##\vec{r}## is always equal to the line your integrating over.
 
xiavatar said:
You have to use the r associated with each curve in your calculations. So when your traversing ##C_i##you use ##r_i##. Equations below assuming the ##C_1,C_2,C_3## given by you.

##\vec{r_1} = (0,0,t)##
##\vec{r_2} = (0,t,1)##
##\vec{r_3} = (2t,1,1)##

Always remember that ##\vec{r}## is always equal to the line your integrating over.

Sorry, but just came across something different.
I am supposed to find the line integral F along the arc of a circle x^2+y^2 = 1 in the 1st quadrant from (1,0) to (0,1) .
can I assume x = t-1 and y = t ?

Thanks
 
Remember that this is is an arc of the circle, not the line from (1,0) to (0,1). So our arc is simply
##\vec{r}=(cos(t),sin(t))## ##0\leq t\leq \frac{pi}{2}##.
 
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Do you understand why this is so?
 
Yes, I understood the interesting thing is that with x = t-1 and y = t I got the answer, but it seems its just a coincidence
 
That's peculiar. It might be because ##\vec{F}## is a conservative vector field. Too lazy to check.
 
gl0ck said:

Homework Statement


Hello,

I have a quick question about the following problem
F = (2y+3)i+xzj+(yz-x)k
and straight lines from (0,0,0) to (0,0,1) to (0,1,1) to (2,1,1)

Considering C1 is the line from (0,0,0) to (0,0,1)
C2 is the line from (0,0,1) to (0,1,1)
and C3 is the line from (0,1,1) to (2,1,1)

Is it right to consider x , y , z as follows
C1 --> x = 0 , y = 0 , z = t
C2 --> x = 0 , y = t , z = 1
C3 --> x = 2t , y=1, z= 1
t from 0 to 1

Yes. You can alway parameterize the straight line from ##P_0## to ##P_1## as ##(1-t)P_0 + tP_1## with ##t: 0\to 1##, which looks like what you did.
 
xiavatar said:
Remember that this is is an arc of the circle, not the line from (1,0) to (0,1). So our arc is simply
##\vec{r}=(cos(t),sin(t))## ##0\leq t\leq \pi##.

You mean ##0\leq t\leq \frac \pi 2##.
 
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Yes. That's what I meant. My post had a typo. Corrected.
 

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