Multivariable Calculus: Points in a Straight Line

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The discussion revolves around determining whether specific sets of points in three-dimensional space lie on a straight line. The points in question are A (2,4,2), B (3,7,-2), C (1,3,3) and D (0,-5,5), E (1,-2,4), F (3,4,2).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss methods for determining collinearity of points, including vector approaches and the concept of scalar multiples. Some express uncertainty about the appropriate methods to apply given their current understanding of vector operations.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes various attempts to clarify the conditions under which points are collinear. Some participants suggest using vector differences and scalar multiples, while others question the applicability of certain mathematical tools, such as the distance formula, in this context.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of prior sections in their studies that have not yet covered certain vector operations, which may limit the methods available to participants for solving the problem.

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Determine whether the points lie in a straight line:
1) A (2,4,2), B (3,7,-2), and C (1,3,3)
2) D (0,-5,5), E (1,-2,4), and F (3,4,2)

I'm not sure what method I need to use to show that they are or are not in a straight line. I know that the three points in a are not in a line but those in group b are in a line.
 
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Suppose we have three points in 3d space, and their position vectors are ##\vec{a},\vec{b}## and ##\vec{c}##. If the three points are on the same line, the difference vectors ##\vec{b}-\vec{a}## and ##\vec{c}-\vec{b}## have same (or opposite) direction and their cross product ##(\vec{b}-\vec{a})\times (\vec{c}-\vec{b})## is zero.
 
I get the cross product thing, but this is from a section be for we were introduced to dot and cross products, so I can't use them.
 
rmiller70015 said:
Determine whether the points lie in a straight line:
1) A (2,4,2), B (3,7,-2), and C (1,3,3)
2) D (0,-5,5), E (1,-2,4), and F (3,4,2)

I'm not sure what method I need to use to show that they are or are not in a straight line. I know that the three points in a are not in a line but those in group b are in a line.

If A,B,C are in a straight line, C-A must be a numerical (scalar) multiple of B-A. This works in any number of dimensions, not just three.
 
Ray Vickson said:
If A,B,C are in a straight line, C-A must be a numerical (scalar) multiple of B-A. This works in any number of dimensions, not just three.

Should I use the distance formula to get the scalar then?
 
rmiller70015 said:
Should I use the distance formula to get the scalar then?

Instead of asking, just start writing out the conditions that one (vector) difference is a scalar multiple of the other, and figure out if (a) this can possibly be true; and (2) if true, the value of the scalar.
 

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