Exact length of the curve analytically

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The problem involves finding the exact length of a curve defined by the equation y=(9-x^(2/3))^(3/2) over the interval 1 ≤ x ≤ 8, using antidifferentiation methods.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the application of the arc length formula and the differentiation of the given curve. There are questions about integrating expressions involving negative exponents and simplifying algebraic terms.

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Participants are actively working through the integration process and attempting to simplify their expressions. Some have pointed out potential errors in the formulation of the arc length equation, while others are exploring simplifications that may facilitate integration.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct form of the arc length formula and the handling of terms with negative exponents. Participants are also addressing algebraic simplifications necessary for integration.

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Homework Statement



a curve is given by y=(9-x^(2/3))^(3/2) for 1 ≤ x ≤ 8. Find the exact length of the curve analytically by antidifferentiation


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The Attempt at a Solution


\int_a^b \sqrt{1+\frac{dy}{dx}} dx
I use this formula right?

i took the derivative of the equation and i got \sqrt{9-x^(2/3)} times X^(-1/3)

How do I integrate it with the negative exponent... I know its probably simple but I'm just not getting it
 
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volleygirl292 said:

Homework Statement



a curve is given by y=(9-x^(2/3))^(3/2) for 1 ≤ x ≤ 8. Find the exact length of the curve analytically by antidifferentiation


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


\int_a^b \sqrt{1+\frac{dy}{dx}} dx
I use this formula right?

i took the derivative of the equation and i got \sqrt{9-x^(2/3)} times X^(-1/3)

How do I integrate it with the negative exponent... I know its probably simple but I'm just not getting it


Your equation above is wrong. It should be

\int_a^b \sqrt{1 + (\frac{dy}{dx}})^2 dx

When you use this form of the equation for the arc length, you will find a couple of things simplify.
 
ok so now i have it down to integral of sqrt of 1-(9-x^(2/3)/(x^(2/3))

but i still have a exponent in the denominator
 
Let me first fix your expression by putting in the "tex" commands:

volleygirl292 said:
ok so now i have it down to

\int_a^b \sqrt{1 + (\frac{9-x^(2/3)}{x^2/3}}) dx

That doesn't look right.

Now,

y = (9 - x^{\frac{2}{3}})^{\frac{3}{2}}

has a derivative that looks like

\frac{dy}{dx} = -(9 - x^{\frac{2}{3}})^{\frac{1}{2}} x^{-\frac{1}{3}}

Now when you square that mess so you can put it into your expression for the arc length there will be simplifications that will allow you to do the integration.
 
I got it down to the integral of sqrt of 1+ (27-x)/x

but i still have an x in the denominator
 
volleygirl292 said:
ok so now i have it down to integral of sqrt of 1-(9-x^(2/3)/(x^(2/3))

but i still have a exponent in the denominator

It's 1+(9-x^(2/3)/(x^(2/3)), isn't it? Simplify the algebraically and then integrate.
 

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