Experiment with Interesting Light Wave Properties

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The discussion revolves around an experimental observation of light wave properties, specifically focusing on diffraction and interference effects as demonstrated through a simple hand experiment involving a light source and the positioning of fingers. The scope includes experimental observations and theoretical implications related to light behavior.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes an experiment involving fingers and a light source that appears to demonstrate wave behavior of light through the observation of a "closing off" effect as fingers approach each other.
  • Another participant identifies the observed phenomenon as diffraction, likening it to effects seen in the Young two-slit experiment, and suggests that calculations can be made regarding the wavelength of light based on the setup.
  • Some participants question whether the observed effects are truly due to interference, proposing that the angular extension of the light source may play a significant role in the results, particularly when the light source is positioned further away.
  • It is suggested that the experiment may yield clearer results when using a single hand rather than both hands, and that the effects can still be observed with a distant light source, such as the bright sky.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the observed effects, with some attributing them to diffraction and interference, while others suggest alternative explanations related to the light source's angular extension. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the primary cause of the observed phenomenon.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the conditions under which the experiment is conducted, such as the distance of the light source and the positioning of the observer's eyes. The discussion also highlights the dependence on the definitions of interference and diffraction in this context.

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Find a fairly bright light source around your home, such as a lamp. The closer your eyes are to the lamp, the better you can see this. A couple feet should work well.

Hold up each index finder so they are a couple inches apart, and place them only a couple inches away from one of your eyes. Close the other eye.

You should now be looking in the direction of the lamp, through the gap in your fingertips, but your eye must be focused on the tips of your index fingers.

Now, slowly bring your fingers together until they touch while continually focusing on the gap between your fingers.

Just before your fingers touch, you should notice the gap "close off", almost like your fingers have been drawn together even though in reality they are not yet touching. If you have extremely steady hands, you might be able to "close the cap" and view darkness between your fingers even though they are still half a millimeter or so apart.

Apparently, this demonstrates that light does indeed behave like a wave. When light rays are forced through the very small gap, the ridges and troughs of the rays interfere
with each other and cancel each other out. You see darkness between your fingers even though they are not yet touching!
 
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You have observed diffraction of light, not unlike that present in the Young two-slit experiment. I tried your experiment, and it works well. Scrutinizing the edge of a razor blade shows similar effects as does that on any keen edge, slit or pinhole.

You can calculate the approximate wavelength of light if you have a concentrated, monochromatic source, know the distance between your fingers, the distance to the eye being used, and the distance you head needs to move to duplicate of the observed wave pattern.
 
Holocene said:
The closer your eyes are to the lamp, the better you can see this.

If this were an interference effect, wouldn't you expect better results when the light source is further away (better collimated)? Comparing your description to a previous thread, the phenomenon may be due to the angular extension of the light source rather than wave effects.
 
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cesiumfrog said:
If this were an interference effect, wouldn't you expect better results when the light source is further away (better collimated)?

IMO it's easier to do the experiment with a finger and thumb of one hand, not using both hands.

It works fine with a light source a long distance away - for example bright sky. But don't look directly at the sun, of course!.

It's easier to see the effect with your fingers close to your eyes, but it also works with your hand at arm's length from your eyes, if you have reasonably good eyesight and you know what to look for. That shows it has nothing to do with the fact that you can't focus your eyes properly on something too close to them.
 

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