Experimentally Determined Young's Modulus

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the calculation of Young's modulus in the context of a mechanics of materials lab experiment involving a cantilever beam subjected to bending forces. Participants explore the applicability of both bending and axial forces in determining Young's modulus and delve into the stress and strain distributions within the beam.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why both bending and axial forces can be used to calculate Young's modulus, suggesting it may be due to both inducing a normal force on the beam.
  • Another participant clarifies that the situation involves bending, specifically mentioning a cantilever flexure frame with weights applied to one end of the beam.
  • A participant requests a description of the axial stress and strain distributions at a cross section of the beam, indicating a focus on the kinematics of deformation.
  • There is a discussion about whether the stress and strain distributions are uniform across the cross section, with some participants assuming uniformity.
  • One participant challenges the assumption of uniform stress and strain distributions, stating that they are not uniform and that the variation is what causes the bending moment.
  • Participants are prompted to consider where tensile stress and strain would be highest, lowest, and zero across the beam's cross section.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the uniformity of stress and strain distributions in the beam, with some assuming uniformity while others argue against it. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these distributions on the calculation of Young's modulus.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the assumptions made about stress and strain distributions, particularly regarding their uniformity and the implications for bending moments. The discussion does not resolve these assumptions.

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Homework Statement


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So in my mechanics of materials lab, we calculated Young's modulus after measuring the strain and applying force to a beam. What I'm trying to figure out is, why are you able to use both a bending force and an axial force when calculating Young's modulus?

Homework Equations


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Young's modulus = stress/strain

The Attempt at a Solution


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Is it because they both induce a normal force on the beam?

Thanks for any help!
 
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Is this a beam bending situation, or is it a situation where you are applying a tensile force along the beam axis?
 
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Sorry I forgot to include that, its a bending situation. We had a beam placed into a cantilever flexure frame and loaded weights on one end of the beam.
 
Please describe your understanding of the axial stress distribution and the axial strain distribution on an arbitrary cross section of the beam, say half way along the length of the beam. What is your understanding of the kinematics of the deformation?
 
The stress and strain distribution for the cross section was assumed to be uniaxial, so does that mean in the lateral direction the stress and strain is zero?
 
jdawg said:
The stress and strain distribution for the cross section was assumed to be uniaxial, so does that mean in the lateral direction the stress and strain is zero?
Are these stress and strain distributions uniform over the cross section of the beam, or do they vary with position over the cross section?
 
We assumed them to be uniform.
 
jdawg said:
We assumed them to be uniform.
You need to go back and review beam bending. They are definitely not uniform. The variation of stress over the cross section is what causes the bending moment. Where over the cross section of the beam would your intuition tell you that the tensile stress (and strain) are highest? Lowest? Zero?
 

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