Experimentally measure the degree of circular polarization

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The discussion revolves around the experimental determination of the degree of circular polarization of light generated by a HeNe laser, specifically after passing through a linear polarizer and a quarter wave plate. Participants explore methods for measuring the degree of circular polarization, including the use of a second linear polarizer and the analysis of transmission data at various angles.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a second linear polarizer to measure overall transmission and deduce the degree of circular polarization from the data collected at different angles.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the ability of a linear polarizer to distinguish between circularly polarized and unpolarized light, questioning the relevance of this for the experiment.
  • A suggestion is made that the intensity versus polarizer angle should yield a sinusoidal pattern, and that fitting a sinusoid could help determine the maximum and minimum intensities, which could then be used to calculate the degree of circular polarization as I_min/I_max.
  • Further clarification is sought regarding the fitting process, with a participant considering the implications of phase differences between linear and circular polarization components.
  • References to standard texts on ellipsometry are provided, indicating that they contain relevant measurement and data processing details.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of using a linear polarizer to measure circular polarization. While some propose methods for analysis, there is no consensus on the best approach or the assumptions regarding the polarization state of the light.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential limitations related to the angular accuracy of the quarter wave plate and the efficiencies of the polarizers, which may affect the measurements and calculations.

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This discussion may be of interest to those involved in optical experiments, particularly in the fields of physics and engineering, who are exploring methods for measuring polarization states of light.

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Dear All:

I have recently encountered a small question regarding the determination of the degree of circular polarization of light. In an optical experiment, we are trying to create a circular polarized light beam by passing a HeNe-laser through a linear polarizer and a quarter wave plate (in which the fast axis is at 45 degree with the LP transmission axis). We need to determine 'the degree of circular polarization' of the output beam -the ratio between the intensity of the desirable circular polarization component in the output beam versus the intensity of the whole output beam.

My intuition is placing another linear polarizer after the beam, and measure the overall transmission versus the rotation of the 2nd linear polarizer (in a 30 degree's step from 0 to 180 degree). We have the set of measured transmission, and they are very close but not exactly the same. Can I deduce the degree of circular polarization based on this data?

Or else, could anyone give me a hint on how to measure and calculate it by other method?

If possible, please provide a link of a published paper or a textbook that describes the calculation process, and I can study it in details.

Thanks a lot!

Best regards!
 
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I don't think your linear polarizer can distinguish between circularly polarized and unpolarized (mixed) light. If that doesn't matter for your application, then maybe it's fine.
 
Khashishi said:
I don't think your linear polarizer can distinguish between circularly polarized and unpolarized (mixed) light. If that doesn't matter for your application, then maybe it's fine.

Thanks for your reply!

Here, I assume our beam (after the QWP) is fully-polarized-it either contains circular polarization component, or linear polarization.

However, the problem is, say, I have the spectra set (transmissions in different angles of 2nd linear polarizer), how can I calculate the degree of circular polarization based on these data?

Thanks!
 
Intensity versus polarizer angle should look sinusoidal. Fit a sinusoid to it and get the maximum and minimum.
degree of circular polarization is just I_min/I_max
 
metatrons said:
Thanks for your reply!

Here, I assume our beam (after the QWP) is fully-polarized-it either contains circular polarization component, or linear polarization.

However, the problem is, say, I have the spectra set (transmissions in different angles of 2nd linear polarizer), how can I calculate the degree of circular polarization based on these data?

Thanks!
The standard ellipsometry reference is Azzam and Bashara's book:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0444870164/?tag=pfamazon01-20

One issue which you don't discuss is the angular accuracy of your QWP and efficiencies of your polarizers. The reference I mentioned has all of the measurement and data processing details. Here's another reference you may find useful:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...25X4Ag&usg=AFQjCNEMiXLal4ncaqbg8ijYtsFZe37M9Q
 
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Khashishi said:
Intensity versus polarizer angle should look sinusoidal. Fit a sinusoid to it and get the maximum and minimum.
degree of circular polarization is just I_min/I_max

Thanks a lot for your hint!

If I understand you correctly, the output beam can be approximated as a elliptical polarized beam, and the sinusoidal function is used to fit the short and long axis of the ellipse. Here, I suppose the sinusoidal function should describe the field amplitude rather than intensity? In specific, I should first do square-root of the measured transmission, then fit the transmission versus angle to the function such like 'Emin+(Emax-Emin)*sin(theta0+theta)'?

I suppose this is sensible method. I still feel some uncertain that it seems this method ignore the possible phase difference between the linear and circular polarization component (in addition for the direction of the linear polarization).. I will think more carefully about it.

Thanks a lot!
 
Andy Resnick said:
The standard ellipsometry reference is Azzam and Bashara's book:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0444870164/?tag=pfamazon01-20

One issue which you don't discuss is the angular accuracy of your QWP and efficiencies of your polarizers. The reference I mentioned has all of the measurement and data processing details. Here's another reference you may find useful:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CD0QFjAGahUKEwjumcmi5ODGAhVOCZIKHaFtBS8&url=http://photonics.intec.ugent.be/education/ivpv/res_handbook/v2ch22.pdf&ei=ZTuoVa7TIc6SyASh25X4Ag&usg=AFQjCNEMiXLal4ncaqbg8ijYtsFZe37M9Q

Thanks a lot! I will try to find a way to read this book and study the details of it.

Here, I assume a perfect angle reading and linear polarizer, and the only source for imperfection is from the imperfect quarter wave plate. But still I am eager to learn the standard method.

Thanks!
 
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