Exploring Pressure Variations of CO2 Gas at 200°C

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The discussion focuses on the pressure variations of CO2 gas at 200°C, comparing the pressure of a real gas to that of an ideal gas using the van der Waals equation and other models. Participants explore the implications of real gas behavior, including deviations from ideal gas laws.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the pressure of CO2 using the van der Waals equation and compares it to the ideal gas law, suggesting that the measured pressure and the ideal gas pressure differ significantly.
  • Another participant asserts that statement a is trivially false and prompts further evaluation of the other statements regarding pressure deviations.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of statements c and e, with one participant questioning how to calculate the deviation accurately.
  • There is a query about whether CO2 can exhibit a negative deviation from ideal gas behavior, indicating uncertainty about the nature of the gas's behavior under the given conditions.
  • A suggestion is made to explore other equations of state models, such as corresponding states, for comparison to the van der Waals equation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the validity of specific statements about pressure deviations, and the discussion remains unresolved as no consensus is reached on which statement is true.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the calculations and the implications of real gas behavior, particularly regarding the nature of deviations and the accuracy of different equations of state.

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Homework Statement
CO2
Relevant Equations
vanderwaals equation p=nrt/V
A container of 0.5l containing 6 moles of CO2 are heated to 200 ° C on is interested in explaining the pressure variations between the pressure of a perfect gas and the actual value measured on a pressure gauge. The coefficients of the real gas a=3.59 [atm l2/mol2-] b=0.0427 [l /mol] indicate the only proposal that is fully true:
a. in this specific case the measured pressure and the pressure of the perfect gas are the same, it has no deviation
b.la actual gas pressure is 438.7 atm this pressure is lower than the pressure calculated by considering the gas how perfect this negative difference is due to the the fact that CO2 molecules have a real volume.
c. the pressure difference between the perfect gas and real 155.3 atm this deviation is due to the fact that CO2 molecules interact with each other and their shocks are inelastic
d. the error is of the order 6% this negative deviation is due to the fact that the molecules of CO2 have a real volume
e. la pressure difference between the perfect and real gas is 27.26 atm this deviation negative is due to the fact that CO2 molecules interact with each other and their shocks are inelastic

for the vanderwaals equation I get 437.57atm and by p=nrt/V =465.432 atm
I think a is false
 
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a is trivially false. What about the other statements? You are asked to identify the one which is true.
 
I think that c is also false because I don't get 155.3 B and E make me doubt How do I calculate the deviation?
 
CO2 can have a negative deviation?
 
havenly said:
CO2 can have a negative deviation?
Well you calculated it (correctly)
 
Have you tried any other equation of state model (e.g., corresponding states) for comparison?
 

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