Extrema of multivariable function

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The discussion revolves around finding and classifying the extrema of a multivariable function, specifically f(x,y) = (4x^2)(e^y) - 2x^4 - e^4y. The original poster expresses difficulty in solving the equations derived from the first derivatives.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss setting the partial derivatives equal to zero to find extrema, with specific focus on handling the exponential terms in the equations. There is an exploration of the implications of setting e^y - 1 to zero and the resulting values for y.

Discussion Status

The discussion is progressing with participants providing guidance on simplifying equations and interpreting results. The original poster has made some progress in identifying potential extrema but continues to seek clarity on the implications of their findings.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a calculus exam context, which may impose certain constraints on the discussion. The original poster reflects on their initial confusion regarding the exponential terms.

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Hi

I'm studying for a calculus exam and I'm a little stuck on finding the extrema for multivariable functions.

For the particular question I'm trying to do now I need to find and classify the extrema for the function f(x,y) = (4x^2)(e^y) - 2x^4 - e^4y.

I can find the first derivatives, being fx = 8xe^y - 8x and fy = (4x^2)(e^y) - 4e^4y and I know I have to let them be equal to 0 to find where the extrema are located but I'm not sure how to do that. I guess it's just the exponentials that are throwing me off.

Any help would be appreciated.
 
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You have done well so far. The next step is to simultaneously set those partial derivatives to zero. So try that and show us the results.
 
Thanks

Well it's 0 = 8xe^y - 8x and 0 = (4x^2)(e^y) - 4e^4y. But I'm not sure where to go from there. I'm not sure what to do with the exponentials, I know they can never equal zero, but I'm not sure what that means for my equations.
 
Simplify the fx=0 equation.
 
0 = 8x(e^y - 1). But I still don't know what to do with the exponential.
 
Any equation of the form a*b=0 tells you that either a=0 or b=0 (or both). This is obviously of that form. x=0 doesn't lead to any extrema. (Why not?) What happens when you set e^y-1 to zero?
 
Thanks for that. I now realize that y can be set to zero in the equation 8x(e^y - 1). And then if you sub y = 0 into the other equation you get 1 and -1 which yields the points (-1,0) and (1,0) (which is the answer in the back of the book :smile:). And if x = 0 then the other equation doesn't work. Thanks heaps. I now see how stupid I was initially lol.
 
I wish when I learned calculus (or any other courses) I could have such instruction.
 

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