Extrema of Quadratic functions

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The discussion revolves around whether every quadratic function has a relative extremum, focusing on the properties of quadratic functions represented by the equation ax^2 + bx + c. Participants explore the implications of the function's shape and its derivatives.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the characteristics of quadratic functions, including the significance of the vertex and the behavior of the first and second derivatives. Questions arise regarding exceptions to the general understanding of extrema in quadratic functions.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants examining different interpretations of the derivatives and their implications for the existence of extrema. Some guidance is provided regarding the conditions under which a function qualifies as a quadratic function.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted emphasis on the requirement that a must not equal zero for the function to be classified as quadratic. Additionally, some confusion exists regarding the terminology and the nature of the derivatives discussed.

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Homework Statement



Does every quadratic function have a relative extrema?

Homework Equations



Quadratic function: ax^2 + bx + c. Aka a polynomial.

Polynomials are continuous through all real numbers.

The Attempt at a Solution



It seems as if all quadratic functions would have a relative extrema since the basic shape of a quadratic function is U-shaped and it's graphically obvious that the second derivative changes sign; all quadratic functions have a vertex whose x coordinate is given by -b/2a and this vertex is also the location of a horizontal tangent line and always represents either the max or min of the quadratic function (depending on orientation). And taking the derivative of the general form of a quadratic function yields 2ax + b where a and b are constants and it would appear that one can easily make the derivative both positive and negative given that the domain of quadratic functions is all real numbers.

Are there any exceptions? (I'm guessing no).
 
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Qube said:
It seems as if all quadratic functions would have a relative extrema since the basic shape of a quadratic function is U-shaped and it's graphically obvious that the second derivative changes sign; all quadratic functions have a vertex whose x coordinate is given by -b/2a and this vertex is also the location of a horizontal tangent line and always represents either the max or min of the quadratic function (depending on orientation). And taking the derivative of the general form of a quadratic function yields 2ax + b where a and b are constants and it would appear that one can easily make the derivative both positive and negative given that the domain of quadratic functions is all real numbers.
Right

Are there any exceptions? (I'm guessing no).
No. Just make sure that "quadratic functions" implies a!=0 in your formula (otherwise it is not a quadratic function).
 
Qube said:

Homework Statement



Does every quadratic function have a relative extrema?

Homework Equations



Quadratic function: ax^2 + bx + c. Aka a polynomial.

Polynomials are continuous through all real numbers.

The Attempt at a Solution



It seems as if all quadratic functions would have a relative extrema since the basic shape of a quadratic function is U-shaped and it's graphically obvious that the second derivative changes sign
The second derivative is constant. You mean the first derivative changes sign.

By the way, extrema is the plural of extremum. You should say that quadratic functions have a relative extremum.
 
Right, and looking at the first derivative, it can only be positive since it's the product of three squared terms. So there can be no sign change regardless.
 
Qube said:
Right, and looking at the first derivative, it can only be positive since it's the product of three squared terms. So there can be no sign change regardless.
I guess this belongs to your other thread.
 
Qube said:
Right, and looking at the first derivative, it can only be positive since it's the product of three squared terms. So there can be no sign change regardless.
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"it" = what?
If y = ax2 + bx + c, then y' = 2ax + b

Where are you getting the three squared terms? mfb seems to know, but I don't recall seeing that other thread.

If "it" refers to y', the derivative will always change sign in a quadratic function.

If "it" refers to y'', that's 2a, so I still don't see where the three squared terms business comes in.
 
mfb said:
I guess this belongs to your other thread.

Whoa LOL yes this belongs in the other thread. Confused. My apologies.
 

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