MHB Factor a^4+b^4: Simplify \(a^4 + b^4 \)

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The discussion centers on simplifying the expression \( \frac{a^4+b^4}{a^2+b^2} \) while ensuring no powers higher than two are present. Participants highlight that \( a^4 + b^4 \) can be factored as \( (a^2 + \sqrt{2} ab + b^2)(a^2 - \sqrt{2} ab + b^2) \), allowing for the numerator to be expressed without exceeding the power of two. The conversation emphasizes the importance of factoring over the complex numbers to achieve the desired simplification.

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I am trying to write
\[
\frac{a^4+b^4}{a^2+b^2}
\]
with nothing higher than a power of two.

I know \(a^2+b^2 = (a + ib)(a - ib)\) and \(a^4 + b^4 = (a^2 + ib^2)(a^2 - ib^2)\), but I am to take the numerator down in farther in hopes of some cancelling in the denominator.
 
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It's a little-known fact that while $x^{2}+y^{2}$ does not factor over the reals, $x^{4}+y^{4}$ does. In fact,
$$x^{4}+y^{4}=(x^{2}+ \sqrt{2} xy+y^{2})(x^{2}- \sqrt{2} xy+y^{2}).$$
 
Ackbach said:
It's a little-known fact that while $x^{2}+y^{2}$ does not factor over the reals, $x^{4}+y^{4}$ does. In fact,
$$x^{4}+y^{4}=(x^{2}+ \sqrt{2} xy+y^{2})(x^{2}- \sqrt{2} xy+y^{2}).$$

So there won't be any cancelling. Since it ask for powers less than two, I could use my factoring just as well then?
 
dwsmith said:
So there won't be any cancelling. Since it ask for powers less than two, I could use my factoring just as well then?

Sure. If you factor the numerator the way I have described, there won't be any powers written that are higher than $2$.
 
Ackbach said:
Sure. If you factor the numerator the way I have described, there won't be any powers written that are higher than $2$.

I could also factor the numerator the way I factored it too. If not, why?
 
Perhaps use $(a^2+b^2)^2-2a^2b^2$?
 
dwsmith said:
I could also factor the numerator the way I factored it too. If not, why?

Well, that would depend on whether you can factor over the complexes or not. If you can factor over the complexes, then you're fine. Otherwise, if you're going to factor, you'd have to use "my" factorization.
 

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