Factorial Notation for Gamma Function Expression with Fractional Input?

In summary, the speakers discussed the use of factorial notation for complex numbers, particularly in relation to the gamma function. They also mentioned that the gamma function is not invertible on the real line and provided examples to illustrate this concept. Ultimately, it was determined that the statement in question, gamma(2(n+3/2))=gamma(2n+1), is false when considering only integer solutions.
  • #1
Belgium 12
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Hi members,

gamma (n+1)=n!

Now I have the following:

gamma(2(n+3/2))=gamma(2n+1)

What is factorial notation for this??

Thank you
 
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  • #2
Factorial (and double factorial) is defined for natural numbers only.
 
  • #3
^I don't know why people say that.
It is perfectly reasonable (and common) to define factorial (and double factorial) for complex numbers.
(-.5)!=sqrt(pi) for example is perfectly sensible

any way gamma (n+1)=n! implies
gamma (x)=(x-1)!
so
gamma(2(n+3/2))=gamma(2n+1)
(2(n+3/2)-1)!=(2n+1-1)!
(2n+2)!=(2n)!
which is in no way helpful
Are you to solve it?
If so hint
(a+b*sqrt(c))/d
 
  • #4
Although (2n+2)! = (2n)! looks strange, it is important to remember that the gamma function is anything but one-to-one on the real line. I really like lurflurf's train of thought. Looks like the quadratic formula would be golden in this problem.

-Junaid
 
  • #5
gamma(2(n+3/2))=gamma(2n+1) is false because 2(n+3/2)=2n+3 which is not 2n+1
 
  • #6
The gamma function is not invertible on the real line so the statement is not necessarily false.

Consider instead the function f(x) = x^2.

Then f(-2)=f(2) is true even though -2 ≠ 2.

-J
 
  • #7
junaid314159 said:
The gamma function is not invertible on the real line so the statement is not necessarily false.

Consider instead the function f(x) = x^2.

Then f(-2)=f(2) is true even though -2 ≠ 2.

-J

Belgium 12 stated : gamma(2(n+3/2))=gamma(2n+1) in which 2(n+3/2) and (2n+1) are integers. Obviously, no complex are considered. If Belgium 12 was thinking on complex roots, he would have mention it. Moreover, he would have not use the notation "n", but "x" or "z". So the statement is false.
 
  • #8
I agree. If the solutions for n are restricted to the integers, then there is no solution. If the solutions are open to the real line, then there are in fact two real solutions. Just as a clarification, note that integers are complex numbers. There are two real, irrational, complex solutions to this equation. I do agree with you though that there are no integer solutions! :)

Also, note that:
gamma(n+1)=gamma(n) has a solution in the integers even though n+1 = n is a false statement. This really brings home the idea that you cannot remove the gamma on both sides of the equation as the gamma function is not invertible.

Junaid Mansuri
 
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junaid314159 said:
I agree. If the solutions for n are restricted to the integers, then there is no solution. If the solutions are open to the real line, then there are in fact two real solutions. Just as a clarification, note that integers are complex numbers. There are two real, irrational, complex solutions to this equation. I do agree with you though that there are no integer solutions! :)

Also, note that:
gamma(n+1)=gamma(n) has a solution in the integers even though n+1 = n is a false statement. This really brings home the idea that you cannot remove the gamma on both sides of the equation as the gamma function is not invertible.

Junaid Mansuri

OK.
In fact, the sender of the question recognizes that there was a mistake in the wording of his question :
http://mathhelpforum.com/calculus/220899-gamma-function-factorial.html#post793851
 
  • #10
Thanks.
 

1. What is the difference between the Gamma function and factorial?

The Gamma function and factorial both involve the concept of "factorial", which is represented by the exclamation mark symbol (!). However, the Gamma function is a continuous extension of the factorial function to real and complex numbers, while the factorial function is only defined for non-negative integers. Essentially, the Gamma function allows us to calculate factorials for any real or complex number, not just integers.

2. How is the Gamma function calculated?

The Gamma function is defined as the integral from 0 to infinity of t^(x-1)e^(-t) dt. This integral cannot be solved analytically, so it is usually evaluated using numerical methods or approximations. One commonly used approximation is the Stirling's approximation, which uses the logarithm of the Gamma function to calculate its value.

3. What is the relationship between the Gamma function and the factorial function?

The Gamma function is a continuous extension of the factorial function. This means that for non-negative integer values, the Gamma function produces the same results as the factorial function. For example, Gamma(n+1) = n!, where n is a non-negative integer. This relationship allows us to use the Gamma function to calculate factorials for non-integer values.

4. What are some applications of the Gamma function?

The Gamma function has many applications in mathematics, physics, and engineering. It is used in probability and statistics to calculate the Beta function, which is used in the Beta distribution. It is also used in the calculation of complex integrals, and in the solution of differential equations. In physics, the Gamma function is used to describe the shape of black hole event horizons, while in engineering it is used in the design of filters and signal processing algorithms.

5. Is there a limit to the values that the Gamma function can produce?

Unlike the factorial function, which grows very quickly and can only produce finite values for non-negative integers, the Gamma function can produce infinite values for certain inputs. However, for real and complex numbers, the Gamma function is well-behaved and has a limit of infinity as the input approaches infinity. It also has a value of zero for negative inputs and for certain complex numbers, the Gamma function can produce complex values.

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