Factoring Madness: Intersecting Curves

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To find the intersection of the curves defined by the equations x + y = 2y^2 and y = x^3, the discussion suggests rewriting the equations in terms of y. The initial attempt leads to a complex equation involving a cube root, which complicates factoring. Instead, cubing both sides simplifies the problem, resulting in a sixth-degree polynomial that can be factored. The rational root theorem is recommended as a method to find roots efficiently, suggesting that substituting y = x^3 into the original equation can streamline the process. The conversation emphasizes the importance of strategic substitutions and methods in solving polynomial equations.
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Homework Statement



I need to find where these curves intersect:

x+y = 2y^2
y = x^3


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



So I try to write both in terms of y, I get

2y^2 - y = y^(1/3)

I try to factor

2y^2 - y - y^(1/3) = 0
y(2y - 1 - y^(-2/3)) = 0 ??

What do I do next?
 
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zeion said:

Homework Statement



I need to find where these curves intersect:

x+y = 2y^2
y = x^3


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



So I try to write both in terms of y, I get

2y^2 - y = y^(1/3)
You're on the right track up to the step above, but that's not an equation that's easy to factor with that cube root.

Instead, cube both sides of the equation. The right side is easy; when cubed it becomes just y.
The left side requires some care, because you're multiplying (2y2 - y)(2y2 - y)(2y2 - y). When you're done, the highest degree term will be 8y6. This might turn out to be a messy problem, since you'll be needing to factor a 6th degree polynomial to find the intersection point(s) - I believe there are two.
zeion said:
I try to factor

2y^2 - y - y^(1/3) = 0
y(2y - 1 - y^(-2/3)) = 0 ??

What do I do next?
 
Okay so after I cubed both sides I get:

8y6 - 12y5 - 2y4 - y3 - y =0

Then I factor out a y:

y(8y5 - 12y4 - 2y3 - y2 - 1) = 0

How do I factor now..? Was there some way to check easier with ration roots theorem?
 
Yes the other root is rational so use the theorem to find it.

It would have saved you a lot of hassle cubing and even makes finding the other root besides y=0 much easier if you substituted y=x^3 into x+y=2y^2. You will quickly and easily get x+x^3=2x^6.
 
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