Fatigue Failure on Turbine Blade(large subsonic aircraft)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the selection of materials for turbine blades in large subsonic aircraft, specifically focusing on nickel-based alloys and their properties. Participants are exploring the historical development of turbine blade materials since the 1940s and the current manufacturing techniques, including single crystal structures and coatings.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on selecting a suitable nickel-based alloy for turbine blades, noting the abundance of options available.
  • There is a request for information on the historical development of turbine blade materials since the 1940s.
  • Another participant confirms that directional solidification and single crystal methods are preferred for turbine blade manufacture and mentions that ceramic coatings can extend the lifetime of the blades.
  • Concerns are raised about the availability of specific research papers and links related to turbine blade performance and fatigue failure mechanisms, such as corrosion-fatigue and thermal-fatigue.
  • CMSX-4 is mentioned as a material that is preferred for turbine blades, but the context of its selection is not fully explored.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the preference for single crystal and directional solidification methods in turbine blade manufacturing. However, there is no consensus on the specific materials to be used, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the historical development of materials and the links to fatigue failure mechanisms.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the availability of certain research papers and the performance characteristics of various materials, indicating a need for more accessible resources. There are also unresolved questions about the relationship between turbine blade performance and specific fatigue failure mechanisms.

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I am doing a project on the subject above, and i am selecting one type of material that is currently popular used in gas turbine, but i found it difficult to select the material as there are too many nickel-based alloy that can be use for this application. Can anyone direct me with a suggestion on what type of materials should i choose and any specific link that can provide the properties of the material?

Besides that, i am looking for development of turbine blade material used since 1940s until now, but i can't seems to find any relevant info on it. Can anyone share some info regarding this?

by the way, from my readings, i found that nowadays, mostly turbine blade are produce to be single crystal plus enhancement of properties with coatings. Is this true for the application of aircraft engine turbine blade available nowadays?
 
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Astronuc said:
See this thread - https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=242166

Directional solidification and single crystal are preferred methods for turbine blade manufacture.

Ceramic coatings extend the lifetime.

Dear Astronuc,
regarding this thread, this link below seems to be unavailable:
http://www.eprictcenter.com/infocenter/ct_o_and_m/pdf/creep7_paper02_msw.pdf

this link seems to have statistic that i wanted, are there any similar link that i can make use?
by the way, does CMSX-4 belong to the preferred materials used for turbine blade nowadays?

are there any link that relate the performance of turbine blade with the fatigue failure mechanism? such as, corrosion-fatigue, creep-fatigue, thermal-fatigue, etc.

thanks for showing me such a useful thread.
 
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It could be the site is down, or they've changed the url, or they no longer have the paper available.

The paper may no longer be available. One could contact the authors:

Materials Technology for Advanced Land Based Gas Turbines
R. Viswanathan, Ph.D., EPRI, Palo Alto, CA 94304, USA
S. T. Scheirer, Ph.D., Power Tech Associates, Media, PA 19063, USA

Meanwhile try this -
http://www.netl.doe.gov/technologies/coalpower/turbines/refshelf/handbook/4.4.1.pdf

http://www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/72949-XICguK/webviewable/72949.pdf

http://www.gepower.com/prod_serv/products/tech_docs/en/downloads/ger3569g.pdf

CMSX-4 is one of the preferred materials.
 
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