Understanding Point B: Solving for Normal Force at Point B

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The discussion centers on calculating the normal force at Point B in a physics problem involving centripetal force. The formula used is Normal force at B = m x v²/r - m x g, resulting in a normal force of 31.92 N for a mass of 1.68 kg moving at 12 m/s with a radius of 5 m. Participants clarify that centripetal force is a resultant force, not an applied force, which explains why forces are subtracted in the equation. Additionally, they discuss the importance of sign conventions when drawing diagrams to visualize the forces involved.

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I need help understanding point B
Point A i get.
Normal force at B = m x v2/r - m x g

= 1.68 x 12 x 12 /5 - 1.68 x 9.8

= 31.92 N

I can't make sense of why the forces are subtracting if A radial and MG are both positive
 
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Miliman13 said:
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I need help understanding point B
Point A i get.
Normal force at B = m x v2/r - m x g

= 1.68 x 12 x 12 /5 - 1.68 x 9.8

= 31.92 N

I can't make sense of why the forces are subtracting if A radial and MG are both positive
The centripetal force is not an applied force, it is a resultant force, so you do not add it to other applied forces. Instead, sum of applied forces = resultant.
 
haruspex said:
The centripetal force is not an applied force, it is a resultant force, so you do not add it to other applied forces. Instead, sum of applied forces = resultant.
my textbook says the same thing Sum of forces and Radial Acceleration always point in.

But i still don't know how to draw a diagram that allows me to visually see how the algebra equates the solution,

I keep wasting paper trying to draw it but nothing matches the math
 
Miliman13 said:
how to draw a diagram
The diagram at A would show normal force up, mg down, resultant up: N-mg=mv2/r.
At B, normal force down, mg down, resultant down. How you write that as an equation depends on your sign convention. If you choose up as positive for all forces, N-mg=-mv2/r, N being negative now. Or you can choose down as positive for N and write N+mg=mv2/r.
 

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