FBD of a loaded Dumptruck platform that is Tilting

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The discussion revolves around drawing a free body diagram (FBD) for a loaded dump truck platform that is tilting, specifically focusing on the forces acting on the platform and the calculation of moments about a pivot point. Participants are examining the correctness of the FBD and the associated moment equations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a FBD and seeks validation of their approach, noting the absence of an answer in the reference book.
  • Another participant suggests that the forces in the FBD need to be separated into components for clarity and utility.
  • A participant challenges the moment equation provided, stating that only the perpendicular component of a force is relevant to the moment calculation.
  • There is a correction regarding an angle in the moment equation, with a participant asserting that a specific angle should be 50 degrees instead of 60 degrees, based on the geometry of the situation.
  • One participant acknowledges a mistake in their moment equation and recalculates the force, arriving at a different value than initially stated.

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Participants express differing views on the correctness of the moment equation and the angles involved. There is no consensus on the initial calculations, but some corrections and clarifications are made throughout the discussion.

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Limitations include potential misunderstandings of geometric relationships and the need for careful algebraic manipulation in moment calculations. The discussion does not resolve these issues but highlights the importance of accuracy in both geometry and calculations.

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Homework Statement
Draw a FBD from the loaded platform of the truck. D has a mass of 25 kN and it's center is at point G. D rest on a pin in A and is connected with a hydraulic cylinder pinned in point B. Give the meaning of the forces.
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Hi,

From the picture the following statement is asked:
"Draw a FBD from the loaded platform of the truck. D has a mass of 25 kN and it's center is at point G. D rest on a pin in A and is connected with a hydraulic cylinder pinned in point B. Give the meaning of the forces."

I made a FBD and I am curious doing it correctly, due to the missing answer at the book...
As well I added a momentsum about point A to find force Fbc, did I have done it both correct?

Thanks in advance!

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The FBD is OK, but you will have to separate forces G and FBC into two components to be useful.

The moment equation is all wrong. Only the perpendicular component of a force with respect to the lever arm is relevant to the moment applied.
 
Thanks,

Is this what you mean?:
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I think you have a slight mistake in your moment equation, that sin60 should be sin50. That angle you mark as 60 degrees (with vertex B) is in fact equal to the sum of the opposite interior angles of that triangle. That is equal to 20+30=50.
And be careful at the algebra, the solution of that equation is NOT 2.97KN (even if we take the equation to be correct).
I solved the corrected moment equation and find ##F_{BC}\approx 18.81kN##
 
Thanks for pointing me on that angle. A good lesson for me, I re-draw a sketch on scale and see the difference now (see below).

And I found my mistake in my moment equation. My calculator was in radians 😂.
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