Figuring out # of possible combos of 3

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To determine the number of unordered combinations of three items from a set of 15, the formula {n choose k} = {n! / (k!(n-k)!)} is applicable. In this case, it translates to {15 choose 3} = 15! / (3! * 12!), resulting in 455 combinations. The reasoning involves selecting the first item in 15 ways, the second in 14 ways, and the third in 13 ways, which initially counts ordered selections. To correct for this, the total is divided by 3! to eliminate duplicate arrangements of the same items. This confirms the use of the combination formula is correct for the problem presented.
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A friend asked me this question, and I am not sure I know how to answer it:


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I have 15 items, and I want to figure out how many unordered combinations of three there are. Any ideas?

a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o

Example:
abc bcd cde
abd bce cdf
abe bcf cde
abf bcg cdg

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The way I think it can be done is using this formula:
<br /> {n\choose k}={n!\over k!(n-k)!}<br />

so you would have {15!\over 3!12!} or 455 possible combinations.
But I am not really confident in this because I never studied this formula in a class - and I don't know if I am using it correctly.

Thanks!
-MIH
 
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Think about how you would choose such combinations. Start by choosing the first letter: there are 15 ways to do that. Now choose the second letter: 14 ways. Finally, choose the third letter: 13 ways. There are 15*14*13 ways. You could write that as 15*14*13*12*11*10*9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1/12*11*10*9*8*7*6*5*4*3*2*1= 15!/12!= 15!/(15-3)!

But that counts "abc" and "bac" as separate which you don't want to do. For each 3 letters there are 3! ways to get those same letters in different orders. To account for that, divide the answer above by 3!. That gives {15!\over 3!12!}
exactly as you suggest. The same analysis for k objects chosen from n gives {n\choose k} (which, in tex form is written "n choose k"!).
 
Thanks so much, Halls!
I appreciate you taking the time to show me how that works.
 
Hey does anyone know physics?
 
Sharayah, if you have a physics question, post in under General Physics, and create a New Thread.
 
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