Finances of Public Medicine and State Schools

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The financing of state schools and public medical practices in the UK is primarily determined by government allocations within the budget, as specified by the Department of Education or Health. Front-line managers are responsible for resource allocation, often under significant stress due to insufficient funding. Smaller expenditures, such as purchasing supplies, may not require higher-level approval, but larger expenses necessitate authorization based on established budget thresholds. The discussion highlights the systemic issues of funding inadequacies that impact both educational and medical services across the nation.

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  • Understanding of UK government funding structures for education and health
  • Knowledge of budget allocation processes in public institutions
  • Familiarity with the roles of front-line managers in resource management
  • Awareness of the differences in funding across the UK regions (England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland)
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  • Research the UK Department of Education's funding guidelines
  • Explore the NHS commissioning processes for public health funding
  • Investigate budget management practices in public sector organizations
  • Examine case studies on the impact of funding cuts in education and healthcare
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Policy makers, educators, healthcare administrators, and anyone involved in the management of public sector finances will benefit from this discussion, particularly those focused on improving funding strategies for state schools and public medical practices.

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Who decides finances in a state school or public medical practice? They are funded from the government right, and then for small amounts I guess they are able to do what they want. But for a certain amount I assume they would have to get the government's permission?
 
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It is really country dependent.
 
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binbagsss said:
Who decides finances in a state school or public medical practice?
The Government allocates funds in the budget. The Department of Education, or Health, specifies the outcome standards that must be met.

Those specifications are higher than can be met with the regional funding provided. The front-line managers allocate the available resources, as best they can, while blaming the Government for failing to supply sufficient funding.

The teachers and medical staff try to survive, under stress, with too much work, on too little pay. The staff are sacrificed, while the people suffer.

Everyone blames those above for insufficient funding.
Everyone blames those below for unreasonable demands.

National education and medical services are too important to the health of the nation to go unfunded.
 
Frabjous said:
It is really country dependent.
apologies ofc should have said, UK
 
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Baluncore said:
The Government allocates funds in the budget. The Department of Education, or Health, specifies the outcome standards that must be met.

Those specifications are higher than can be met with the regional funding provided. The front-line managers allocate the available resources, as best they can, while blaming the Government for failing to supply sufficient funding.

The teachers and medical staff try to survive, under stress, with too much work, on too little pay. The staff are sacrificed, while the people suffer.

Everyone blames those above for insufficient funding.
Everyone blames those below for unreasonable demands.

National education and medical services are too important to the health of the nation to go unfunded.
Okay, I guess I more meant, say the school decides to buy some equipment, spending like 1k on it... would that sort of amount need to be checked by higher up, or I assume something relatively small like that would not need higher up approval then whoever is in charge of the schools'/ medical practices' finances?
 
It depends. If one buys bandages with the money, it's probably not a big deal. If someone buys a night on the town, it probably is.
 
I mean I assume there's some threshold amount which also needs authorisation from higher up. Was looking for a rough idea of that.
 
It would depend on how things are budgeted.

You may have a disposable supply budget, spend up to X in a year.
You may have a personnel budget, spend up to X, but you would be spending more in one place ((a new hire).
Once its budgeted, someone has to have the authority to spend it. Items more than certain amounts may require more documentation and getting agreements.
A new building is a special expense that a higher power would have to fund.

All this will vary with:
  • where you are in the control hierarchy
  • what exactly you are talking about
  • how things are being run
  • where your money is coming from.
 
binbagsss said:
Who decides finances in a state school or public medical practice? They are funded from the government right, and then for small amounts I guess they are able to do what they want.
binbagsss said:
apologies ofc should have said, UK
binbagsss said:
But for a certain amount I assume they would have to get the government's permission?
No, this is not how it works in the UK.

https://educationhub.blog.gov.uk/2023/04/26/school-funding-everything-you-need-to-know/
https://www.england.nhs.uk/commissioning/primary-care/

(Note the above are for England, there are differences in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland).
 

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