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The discussion revolves around finding all complex 2x2 matrices \( A \) such that \( A^2 = A \), indicating that \( A \) is an idempotent matrix. Participants explore various properties and implications of this condition.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants consider cases based on the invertibility of matrix \( A \) and discuss the implications of \( A^2 = A \). Some suggest examining the determinant and its relation to the equations derived from the matrix entries.

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The discussion is ongoing with multiple approaches being explored. Some participants have provided insights into the nature of idempotent matrices and suggested focusing on specific cases, while others have raised questions about the completeness of the proposed solutions.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem statement and are encouraged to derive solutions based on the original equations provided. There is an emphasis on exploring both invertible and non-invertible cases, with some noting the need to consider non-diagonalizable matrices.

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Homework Statement



Find all Complex 2x2 matrices A such that A2 = A

Homework Equations


[itex] \[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}<br /> a & b \\<br /> c & d \\ \end{array} \right)^2\] = A<br /> [/itex]

The Attempt at a Solution



A2=A

I need to solve the equations

[itex] a^2+bc=a[/itex]
[itex] <br /> (a+d)b =b[/itex]
[itex] <br /> (a+d)c = c\\[/itex]
[itex] <br /> d^2 + bc = d\\[/itex]
What is the best way to do this?

Should I use some kind of rearrangement like

using equation 1 and 4 we get

[itex] a^2-d^2=a-d[/itex]

any help greatly appreciated
 
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I would think about two cases, that where A-1 exists and where it doesn't exist.
 
Are you talking about when A is an orthogonal matrix so A-1 = AT?
 
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The question is: Is A invertible? If so, then just take A-1 of both sides and what do you get?
 
A-1 exist when [itex]ad-cb \neq 0[/itex]

so
case 1 [itex]ad-cb \neq 0[/itex]
case 2 [itex]ad-cb = 0[/itex]
 
Stop looking at the series of equations you have

If
A2=A

And A-1 exists

In one step you can find A
 
If A is invertable and A2=A
AA=A
A-1AA=A-1A
IA=I

So A = I
 
Now if A is not invertible, what can you say about how A acts on im(A), its image?
 
Think about the fact that if [itex]A^2= A[/itex] then [itex]A^2- A= A(A- I)= 0[/itex]
 
  • #10
Would that mean that the only way that
[itex]A^2- A= A(A- I)= 0[/itex]
is that either A = the trivial solution.

[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}0 & 0 \\0 & 0 \\ \end{array} \right)\] = A[/itex]
or

[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}-1 & 0 \\0 & -1 \\ \end{array} \right)\] = A[/itex]

regards
 
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  • #11
beetle2 said:
Would that mean that the only way that
[itex]A^2- A= A(A- I)= 0[/itex]
is that either A = the trivial solution.

[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}0 & 0 \\0 & 0 \\ \end{array} \right)\] = A[/itex]
or

[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}-1 & 0 \\0 & -1 \\ \end{array} \right)\] = A[/itex]

regards

That's completely wrong thinking. If A and B are matrices AB=0 does NOT mean A=0 or B=0. And [[-1,0],[0,-1]] doesn't work at all. Here's some other ones that do [[1,0],[0,0]], [[1,1],[0,0]], [[1/2,1/2],[1/2,1/2]]. There's LOTS of them. You already followed up on the excellent hint that if A is invertible, then A=I is the only solution. Now suppose A is not invertible. Then det(A)=0, so you can add the condition ad-bc=0 to your original list of equations. That makes it easier. Now go to those equations and start working on cases. You should be able to write down a two parameter family of solutions that satisfy A^2=A besides the zero matrix.
 
  • #12
For the record, responders have been suggesting two different methods of approach. Office_Shredder's is a geometric one, and offers more insight into why idempotent matrices are interesting. The other was more algebraic.


I confess I would have suggested yet a different approach, one that starts by looking at the equation (a+d)b=b.
 
  • #13
Hurkyl said:
For the record, responders have been suggesting two different methods of approach. Office_Shredder's is a geometric one, and offers more insight into why idempotent matrices are interesting. The other was more algebraic.


I confess I would have suggested yet a different approach, one that starts by looking at the equation (a+d)b=b.

Why is that different from the algebraic approach? I'm just saying that the equations the OP originally posted are a lot easier to solve if you restrict to the case of noninvertible matrices, in which case you can put ad=bc. LCKurtz already suggested this, and it's a very good suggestion.
 
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  • #14
As idempotent matrices must eigenvalues of 1 and 0 would it be all the Matrices that can produce the diagonal matrix

[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}1 & 0 \\0 & \\ \end{array} \right)\] = A[/itex]
 
  • #15
No, I already pointed out that [[1/2,1/2],[1/2,1/2]] works.
 
  • #16
beetle2 said:
As idempotent matrices must eigenvalues of 1 and 0...
Figures you'd go for yet another solution! There are (at least) three things you need to do to turn this into a complete solution and a proof.

(1) What about non-diagonalizable matrices?

(2) For the diagonalizable solutions, you haven't covered all possible diagonal forms.

(3) You still need to simplify your characterization of the solutions into a form that would be considered "found".
 
  • #17
So I have the first case where the matreix is invertable


If A is invertable and A^2=A
AA=A
A-1AA=A-1A
IA=I

So A = I

The other case is when A is not invertable so then the det(A) = 0

A^2 = A
AA = A
AA - A = A - A
AA - A = 0
A(I-A) = 0


SO what complex matrix will do this?
 
  • #18
beetle2 said:
So I have the first case where the matreix is invertable


If A is invertable and A^2=A
AA=A
A-1AA=A-1A
IA=I

So A = I

The other case is when A is not invertable so then the det(A) = 0

A^2 = A
AA = A
AA - A = A - A
AA - A = 0
A(I-A) = 0


SO what complex matrix will do this?

I already told you in post 10 that that factorization isn't particularly useful. Go back to your original set of equation and add the condition det(A)=0=ad-bc. You'll find they are pretty easy to solve.
 
  • #19
For det(A)= 1 = invertable

[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}1 & 0 \\0 & 1 \\ \end{array} \right)\][/itex]


for det(A) = 0 = non invertable

b or c can be any value

[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}1 & b \\0 & 0 \\ \end{array} \right)\][/itex]

[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}1 & 0 \\c & 0 \\ \end{array} \right)\][/itex]

[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}0 & b \\0 & 1 \\ \end{array} \right)\][/itex]

[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}0 & 0 \\c & 0 \\ \end{array} \right)\][/itex]

[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}0 & 0 \\0 & 0 \\ \end{array} \right)\][/itex]

also you have
for all square matrices nXn

[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}\frac{1}{n} & \frac{1}{n} \\\frac{1}{n} & \frac{1}{n} \\ \end{array} \right)\][/itex]


I'm not sure how to get that last one. I just noticed that DIck posted that one and by trying different options noticed that it worked for all nXn matrices
 
  • #20
Those are all one parameter special cases. At least the ones that actually work are. The really general solution has two free parameters b and c, both in the same matrix. Can you find it? It includes the [[1/2,1/2],[1/2,1/2]] case. I keep telling you to go back to your original equations and add ad=bc.
 
  • #21
I start out with.

[itex]a^2+bc=a[/itex]
[itex](a+d)b=b[/itex]
[itex](a+d)c=c[/itex]
[itex]d^2+bc=d[/itex]

I set them all to equal zero.

[itex]a^{2}-a+bc=0[/itex][itex](1)[/itex]
[itex](a+d-1)b=0[/itex][itex](2)[/itex]
[itex](a+d-1)c=c[/itex][itex](3)[/itex]
[itex]d^{2}-d+bc=0[/itex][itex](4)[/itex]]
and
[itex]ad-bc=0[/itex][itex](5)[/itex]

From equation (2) either a+d=1 or b=0

So take [itex]b\neq 0 \rightarrow a+d=1[/itex] than (3) and (2) are both satisfied.
from (1) [itex]c=\frac{a-a^2}{b}[/itex] since [itex]b\neq 0[[/itex]

for d we can use from a+d=1 we have d = 1-a

So using (4) = [itex](1-a)^2-(1-a)+((a+1-a)\times(\frac{a-a^2}{b}))[/itex]
= [itex](1-a)^2-(1-a)+((a-a^2)[/itex]
=[itex]-a+a^2+a-a^2=0[/itex]


So for b [itex]neq 0[/itex] we have the general matrix


[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}a & b \\\frac{a-a^2}{b} & 1-a \\ \end{array} \right)\][/itex]

I'm sure there is an easier way to do this
 
  • #22
beetle2 said:
I start out with.

[itex]a^2+bc=a[/itex]
[itex](a+d)b=b[/itex]
[itex](a+d)c=c[/itex]
[itex]d^2+bc=d[/itex]

I set them all to equal zero.

[itex]a^{2}-a+bc=0[/itex][itex](1)[/itex]
[itex](a+d-1)b=0[/itex][itex](2)[/itex]
[itex](a+d-1)c=c[/itex][itex](3)[/itex]
[itex]d^{2}-d+bc=0[/itex][itex](4)[/itex]]
and
[itex]ad-bc=0[/itex][itex](5)[/itex]

From equation (2) either a+d=1 or b=0

So take [itex]b\neq 0 \rightarrow a+d=1[/itex] than (3) and (2) are both satisfied.
from (1) [itex]c=\frac{a-a^2}{b}[/itex] since [itex]b\neq 0[[/itex]

for d we can use from a+d=1 we have d = 1-a

So using (4) = [itex](1-a)^2-(1-a)+((a+1-a)\times(\frac{a-a^2}{b}))[/itex]
= [itex](1-a)^2-(1-a)+((a-a^2)[/itex]
=[itex]-a+a^2+a-a^2=0[/itex]


So for b [itex]neq 0[/itex] we have the general matrix


[itex]\[ \left( \begin{array}{cc}a & b \\\frac{a-a^2}{b} & 1-a \\ \end{array} \right)\][/itex]

I'm sure there is an easier way to do this

You've got it. Yes. Was that really so hard? a=1/2 and b=1/2 gives you the [[1/2,1/2],[1/2,1/2]] solution. And now you can find a lot more solutions where none of the matrix entries are zero. Like M=[[2,3],[-2/3,-1]]. M.M=M. That's a=2, b=3. That's exactly what I was looking for.
 

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