Find Arc Length of Astroid: Integral Solution

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The problem involves finding the arc length of an astroid defined by the equation x^(2/3) + y^(2/3) = 7^(2/3). The original poster attempts to set up the integral for the length of the curve in the first quadrant and multiply by 8 for the total length.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the integral for arc length and the differentiation of the equation. There are attempts to simplify expressions and clarify the differentiation process. Some participants question the method of solving for y and suggest alternative approaches.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing different perspectives on how to approach the differentiation and integral evaluation. There is a focus on ensuring clarity in the calculations and exploring various methods without reaching a consensus on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may require implicit differentiation and that there are specific expectations regarding the form of the solution. There is mention of potential errors in the current method being used by the original poster.

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Homework Statement


the graph of the equation x^(2/3) + y^(2/3) = 7^(2/3) is one of the family of curves called asteroids.


Homework Equations


find the length of first-quadrant and multiply by 8.
1. y=(7^(2/3) - x^(2/3))^(3/2)) ; 7sqrt(2)/4 <= x <= 7



The Attempt at a Solution


1. i found dy/dx, (dy/dx)^2, and now I'm at the length integral.
2. L = integral sqrt(1+7^(2/3) * x^(2/3) - x^(4/3))

i'm not sure how to evaluate this integral (#2) without using a calculator, but that doesn't give me the exact answer that i need.
 
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I get a simpler expression for ##1 + y'^2##. Please show your work.
 
dy/dx = -x^1/3 (7^2/3 - x^2/3)^(1/2)
(dy/dx)^2 = x^(2/3) * (7^(2/3) - X^(2/3)V ----> 7^(2/3)* X^(2/3) - X^(4/3)

L = ∫ (x=a to x=b) SQRT(1 + 7^(2/3) * x^(2/3) - x^(4/3))
 
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Instead of converting the equation to the form y = f(x), just differentiate the equation as given. It's less messy, so less prone to error.
 
it's already solved for y that's how the want you to solve it.
 
whatlifeforme said:
it's already solved for y that's how the want you to solve it.

That is not the easy way to solve it and is probably why you are having trouble. Differentiate the equation ##x^{2/3} + y^{2/3} = 7^{2/3}## implicitly with respect to ##x## to get ##y'## and calculate ##1 + y'^2##. Show us what you get.
 

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