Find delta-v; Hohmann transfer orbit

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The problem involves a space vehicle transitioning from a circular orbit at a radius of 2RE to another circular orbit at a radius of 4RE using a Hohmann transfer orbit. The original poster seeks to determine the required changes in velocity at two points during this transfer, expressed as percentages of the speeds just before the changes.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the velocity changes using provided equations but questions the accuracy of their results. They express uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the velocities at the points of change.
  • Some participants question the assumptions regarding the velocities at the points of intersection, particularly the distinction between the velocity just before the second change and the velocity immediately after the first change.
  • Others suggest using the semi-major axis of the transfer orbit to determine the velocity at the apogee of the elliptical trajectory.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications and suggestions for recalculating the velocities. There is a recognition of the need to consider the elliptical nature of the transfer orbit, and some guidance has been offered regarding the application of the velocity equations at different points in the trajectory.

Contextual Notes

The original poster notes the absence of a figure referenced in the problem statement, which may impact their understanding of the trajectory and velocity changes. Additionally, there is mention of prior calculations related to energy required for the transition, which may influence the current problem-solving approach.

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Homework Statement


A space vehicle is in circular orbit about the earth. The mass of the vehicle is 3300 kg. The radius of the orbit is 2RE. It is desired to transfer the vehicle to a circular orbit of radius 4RE.

An efficient way to accomplish the transfer is to use a semielliptical orbit (known as a Hohmann transfer orbit), as shown. What velocity changes are required at the points of intersection, A and B? Express the change in speed as the percentage of the speed just before the change.

Unfortunately I am not given the figure that this problem refers to.

Homework Equations



Δv1=\sqrt{GM/r_1}(\sqrt{2r_2/(r_1+r_2)}-1)

Δv2=\sqrt{GM/r_2}(1-\sqrt{2r_1/(r_1+r_2)})

v=\sqrt{GM(2/r-1/a)}, where a is the semi-major axis.

The Attempt at a Solution



I thought this was pretty straightforward but apparently my answers are incorrect. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. My interpretation is that the satellite is in orbit at 2RE=r1, we need to get it into a transition orbit and to do so we increase the velocity by amount Δv1, we then stabilize this orbit at 4RE=r2 by increasing velocity once more.

Plugging in the knowns to the above equation I get:

Δv1=865.2 m/s

Δv2=725.7 m/s

Now I need to represent these changes in velocity as percentages of the velocity just before the given change. The initial velocity can be found using this equation:

v0=\sqrt{GM(2/r-1/a)}

In this case, being a circular orbit, r=a=2RE

v0= 5592.8 m/s

Also, the velocity after the first velocity change is v1=v0+Δv1=6458 m/s

So, the first answer should be:

\frac{Δv_1}{v_0}=15.47%

and the second answer:

\frac{Δv_2}{v_1}=11.24%

I also tried entering these as the decimal equivalents and tried simply using the initial velocity as the divisor when calculating my percents. None of this worked. Perhaps I have A and B mixed around because I don't have the image but I believe it is more likely that I made a mistake.

These answers are wrong. Any suggestions? Thank you!

EDIT: The reason I am given the extra variables in the initial problem is that there was a part before this that asked me to calculate the required energy to make the transition from 2R to 4R which I solved correctly.
 
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The velocity just before the second change will not be the same as the velocity immediately after the first change; the craft is at perigee immediately after the first change, and heads out to apogee where the second change occurs. Otherwise your calculations appear to be fine.
 
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Ahh, of course! Thank you, gneill!

Would I be able to plug in 4RE to the velocity equation? I ask because the satellite's trajectory is skewed in the sense that when it reaches 4RE it would not be stable if not for Δv2. I'm not sure how to figure the velocity at that point otherwise.
 
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Ahh, of course! Thank you, gneill!

Would I be able to plug in 4RE to the velocity equation? I ask because the satellite's trajectory is skewed in the sense that when it reaches 4RE it would not be stable if not for Δv2. I'm not sure how to figure the velocity at that point otherwise.

Your velocity equation holds for all points on the transfer trajectory, which would just be an ellipse if not for the second correction. So sure, plug in 4RE and obtain the velocity.
 
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Ah, I see what you mean, thank you. My thought initially was to use 4RE assuming the orbit was circular. Of course, the transfer orbit is, as you mentioned, an ellipse. For anyone who has a similar problem in the future you can figure the semi-major axis of this ellipse to use in the velocity equation from the transfer orbit's perigee and apogee points which happen to fall on the two known circular orbits.

Using your suggestion(s) and that noted above the correct answer was found.
 

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