Find derivative with chain rule

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The discussion revolves around finding the derivative of the function y = -18 sin(80t), which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically focusing on differentiation of trigonometric functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the chain rule and the basic derivatives of trigonometric functions. There are questions about the foundational understanding of differentiation and the process of applying these rules to the given function.

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Some participants have provided links and references to resources on differentiation and the chain rule. There is an acknowledgment of the original poster's confusion regarding the topic, and a request for hints on the basics of differentiation has been made. While some participants confirm the correctness of the derivative calculation, the discussion remains open with various interpretations and clarifications being explored.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their placement of the question in the forum and their experience level with differentiating trigonometric functions. There is a mention of the need for foundational understanding in differential calculus.

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hey
how would i find the derivative of y= -18 \sin 80 t?
thanks pavadrin
 
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1. Use the fact, which you should already have learned, that the derivative of sin(x) is cos(x).
2. Use the fact, which you should already have learned, that the derivative of 80t is 80.
3. Use the chain rule.

By the way, the derivative is one of the basic operations in calculus so this is clearly not "pre-calculus". I'm moving this to "Calculus and beyond".
 
okay sorry for having placed it in the wrong section, um...ive never differentiated a trig f(x) before that's all and it was the first i came across that i needed to differentiate. could i please given a few hints on the basics? thanks
 
I would imagine if one is studying differential calculus, that one is using a textbook and within the textbook are trigonometric identities and examples.

HallsofIvy mentioned the chain rule, which is very basic in differentiation.

Given y = f(g(x)), y' = dy/dx = f'(g(x))*g'(x).

Has one proved to oneself the definition of a derivative, and then used that definition to find the derivative of various functions?

y'(x) = dy(x)/dx = \lim_{\substack{\Delta{x}\rightarrow 0}} \frac{y(x+\Delta{x})-y(x)}{\Delta{x}}

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/deriv.html
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/math/derfunc.html#c1

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_rule

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Derivative.html
 
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okay thanks for the replies and the links. so the derivative of sin (x) = cos (x) therefore that if y = -18sin (80t) then y' = 80(-18cos (80t)), expanding the brackets is equal to y' = -1440cox 80t? thanks
 
pavadrin said:
okay thanks for the replies and the links. so the derivative of sin (x) = cos (x) therefore that if y = -18sin (80t) then y' = 80(-18cos (80t)), expanding the brackets is equal to y' = -1440cox 80t? thanks
Yup, this is correct. :smile:
A harmless typo though, cox should read cos, instead. :)
 
oh okay thanks for confirming that :smile:
 

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