Find Equation of Plane Containing Point & Line

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The discussion revolves around finding the equation of a plane that contains a specific point and a line defined in parametric form. The subject area includes concepts from geometry and vector calculus, particularly focusing on planes and lines in three-dimensional space.

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  • Participants explore various methods to determine the equation of the plane, including using direction vectors, the cross product, and the point-normal form. There are questions about the relationship between points and planes, particularly regarding the terminology of "passing through" versus "containing" points.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing different approaches and clarifying concepts related to the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of normal vectors and the cross product, but there is no explicit consensus on a single method to solve the problem.

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Homework Statement


Find the equation of the plane which contains the point (3,2,-3) and the line: (x,y,z) = (7,-4,5) + t (0,-2,2)

Homework Equations


Point-Normal equation?
a(x-x0)+b(y-y0)+c(z-z0) = 0

Not sure if this is related.

The Attempt at a Solution



First off:

The line (xyz) should be (7,-4,5) + t (0,-2,2) which becomes (7, -4-2t, 5 +7t). And then yea...

I'm behind :(. I've been sick for the past 2 weeks and I don't understand my friends' notes. So I'm not asking for any of you to solve this for me, but if someone could point me in the right direction and help me on interpreting the question, then that would be great.

Thanks.
 
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You can use the normal equation once you find a normal. You've got one direction vector which is parallel to the plane which is the direction vector to the line. Find another one by taking the difference between your point and any point on the line. Then use the cross product.
 


Or- just take two different values of t to find two different points on the line. You now have three points in the plane. You know how to find the plane containing three given points, don't you?
 


HallsofIvy said:
Or- just take two different values of t to find two different points on the line. You now have three points in the plane. You know how to find the plane containing three given points, don't you?

Do I use
ax + by + cz + d = 0
to get the equation of each point and solve for the system of equations?

Is there a difference between "passing through the points" and "contains the points" in terms of planes?
 


iamsmooth said:
Do I use
ax + by + cz + d = 0
to get the equation of each point and solve for the system of equations?

Is there a difference between "passing through the points" and "contains the points" in terms of planes?

If you don't know how to find the equation of a line using three points, why don't you just try to find a normal? You seemed to be ok with that.
 


iamsmooth said:
Do I use
ax + by + cz + d = 0
to get the equation of each point and solve for the system of equations?
That is certainly one possible way to do it. Notice that you get three equations to solve for four coefficients but that is okay: any multiple of the equation of the plane is also an equation of the plane. You can take anyone of a, b, c, or d to be 1, say.

But the way most people learn to find the plane containing three given points is to determine the vectors from one of the points to the other two and take the cross product of those- which leads back to the method Dick is suggesting.

Is there a difference between "passing through the points" and "contains the points" in terms of planes?
I don't know why but, geometrically, I tend to think of a line as "passing through" points and a plane as "containing" points! No, there is no difference at all.
 

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