Find focal length of electron for a parabolic motion

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The discussion revolves around determining the focal length of an electron in parabolic motion, utilizing concepts from classical mechanics and electromagnetism. Participants are exploring the relationship between the forces acting on the electron and its trajectory.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to relate work done by forces to the motion of the electron, questioning the meaning of the variable ##l## in their equations. Other participants clarify the role of ##l## in relation to the coordinate system being used, suggesting it represents a different dimension than initially assumed.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing clarifications and alternative formulations. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the variables and their physical significance, with no clear consensus yet on the correct approach or final expression for the focal length.

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There appears to be some confusion regarding the definitions of the variables and their respective roles in the equations, particularly between ##x## and ##y##. The discussion is constrained by the need to adhere to specific homework guidelines, which may limit the exploration of certain methods or solutions.

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Homework Statement
An electron of charge e is moving at a constant velocity u, along x-axis. It enters a region of constant electric field E, which is pointing perpendicular to x-axis. The electron moves in a parabola. Which of the following represents the focal length of the parabola? Neglect any effects due to gravity. (for a parabola of type ##x^2=4ay##, a is the focal length)
Relevant Equations
##\int \vec F\cdot d\vec s = \frac{1}{2}mu^2##
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Here I was going to use ##\int \vec F \cdot d\vec l = \frac{1}{2}mu^2##

What I got that is ##l=\frac{mu^2}{2eE}##. Here the question is what is ##l## (I took ##x## while doing the work but here I used ##l## instead of ##x##)? I was assuming that it's ##x## since I am calculating work in the parabola. So my equation stands ##a=\frac{m^2u^4}{16 y(eE)^2}##. But there's no option of it. But what I found for ##l## that satisfies. But my question is how ##l## is focal length?
 
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##l## is in the direction of ##\vec F##, so perpendicular to your ##x##. It plays the role of ##y##, not ##x##

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BvU said:
##l## is in the direction of ##\vec F##, so perpendicular to your ##x##. It plays the role of ##y##, not ##x##

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So if I take ##y## into account then I get...

##y=\frac{mu^2}{2eE}##
##\frac{x^2}{4a}=\frac{mu^2}{2eE}##
##a=\frac{x^2 eE}{2a mu^2}##

but... 🤔
 
No you don't:
$$\left . \begin {array} {ll} x &= ut \\y & = \displaystyle {eEt^2\over 2m} \end{array}\right \}\Rightarrow y =x^2 {eE\over 2mu^2}\Rightarrow x^2 = 4\left(mu^2\over 2eE\right ) y$$so that $$a=\displaystyle {mu^2\over 2eE}$$

[edit]sorry I had to fumble with the 2's a few times...

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