Find focal length of electron for a parabolic motion

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The discussion focuses on deriving the focal length of an electron in parabolic motion using the work-energy principle. The user initially calculated a variable \( l \) as \( \frac{mu^2}{2eE} \) and questioned its relation to the focal length. Clarification was sought on whether \( l \) should be interpreted as \( x \) or \( y \), with emphasis on the direction of the force vector \( \vec F \). The equations presented indicate a relationship between the variables, ultimately leading to a derived acceleration \( a \) expressed in terms of \( x \), \( y \), and other constants. The thread concludes with a correction on the interpretation of the variables involved in the calculations.
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Homework Statement
An electron of charge e is moving at a constant velocity u, along x-axis. It enters a region of constant electric field E, which is pointing perpendicular to x-axis. The electron moves in a parabola. Which of the following represents the focal length of the parabola? Neglect any effects due to gravity. (for a parabola of type ##x^2=4ay##, a is the focal length)
Relevant Equations
##\int \vec F\cdot d\vec s = \frac{1}{2}mu^2##
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Here I was going to use ##\int \vec F \cdot d\vec l = \frac{1}{2}mu^2##

What I got that is ##l=\frac{mu^2}{2eE}##. Here the question is what is ##l## (I took ##x## while doing the work but here I used ##l## instead of ##x##)? I was assuming that it's ##x## since I am calculating work in the parabola. So my equation stands ##a=\frac{m^2u^4}{16 y(eE)^2}##. But there's no option of it. But what I found for ##l## that satisfies. But my question is how ##l## is focal length?
 
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##l## is in the direction of ##\vec F##, so perpendicular to your ##x##. It plays the role of ##y##, not ##x##

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BvU said:
##l## is in the direction of ##\vec F##, so perpendicular to your ##x##. It plays the role of ##y##, not ##x##

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So if I take ##y## into account then I get...

##y=\frac{mu^2}{2eE}##
##\frac{x^2}{4a}=\frac{mu^2}{2eE}##
##a=\frac{x^2 eE}{2a mu^2}##

but... 🤔
 
No you don't:
$$\left . \begin {array} {ll} x &= ut \\y & = \displaystyle {eEt^2\over 2m} \end{array}\right \}\Rightarrow y =x^2 {eE\over 2mu^2}\Rightarrow x^2 = 4\left(mu^2\over 2eE\right ) y$$so that $$a=\displaystyle {mu^2\over 2eE}$$

[edit]sorry I had to fumble with the 2's a few times...

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