Find Fourier coefficients - M. Chester text

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The discussion revolves around finding the Fourier coefficients C_0 and C_1 for the function f(x) = √(8/3L) cos²(π/L x). The user successfully calculated C_0 but struggled with C_1, initially obtaining incorrect results with imaginary parts. A key point raised was the need to use the correct form for the Fourier coefficients, specifically that the exponential term should be e^(-i(2π/L)kx) for periodic functions. After clarification, it was confirmed that the user’s approach was valid, and they expressed gratitude for the insights that helped them understand the Fourier series concepts better. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly setting up integrals in Fourier analysis.
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Homework Statement


I am self studying an introductory quantum physics text by Marvin Chester Primer of Quantum Mechanics. I am stumped at a problem (1.10) on page 11. We are given

f(x) = \sqrt{ \frac{8}{3L} } cos^2 \left ( \frac {\pi}{L} x \right )

and asked to find its Fourier coefficients C_0 and C_1 from

C_k = \frac{1}{L} \displaystyle {\int_0^L} e^{-ikx} f( x ) dx

I found C_0 = \sqrt{ \frac{2}{3L} }; it was easy as k=0 greatly simplified the integral. But I am completely baffled at an answer for the C_1 coefficient. The text has the answer as \frac{1}{ \sqrt{6L} }, and I do not get anything remotely close that; I keep getting answers with nonzero imaginary parts and \pi in the terms.

Homework Equations



f(x) = \sqrt{ \frac{8}{3L} } cos^2 \left (\frac{\pi}{L} x \right)

C_k = \frac{1}{L} \displaystyle {\int_0^L} e^{-ikx} f( x ) dx

C_1 = \frac{1}{ \sqrt{6L} }

The Attempt at a Solution


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To begin, I substituted f(x) into the equation for C_k for k = 1

C_1 = \frac{1}{L} \displaystyle {\int_0^L e^{-ix} \sqrt{ \frac {8}{3L} }} cos^2 \left ( \frac {\pi}{L} x \right ) dx

Then I factored the constants out of the integral

C_1 = \frac{1}{L} \sqrt{ \frac {8}{3L} } \displaystyle {\int_0^L e^{-ix}} cos^2 \left ( \frac {\pi}{L} x \right ) dx

Then I attempted to solve the integral

\displaystyle {\int_0^L e^{-ix}} cos^2 \left ( \frac {\pi}{L} x \right ) dx

I tried doing it by parts, then I tried by substituting e^{-ix} = cos (x) - i sin (x) and distributing cos^2 \left ( \frac {\pi}{L} x \right ) into that and integrating the result, but I only generated 4 pages of blundering chicken scratch that gave me things like \textstyle {\frac {2i}{3L} \sqrt{ \frac{8}{3L}} }; another attempt led to \textstyle {\frac {1}{\pi} \frac{2i}{3} }. I even went to my TI-89 and the Wolfram website and got an analytical solution to the integral, but the definite integrals they returned gave complex numbers that did NOT look anything like \frac{1}{ \sqrt{6L} }. Can anyone tell me; am I even setting up the integral correctly?
 
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GreyNoise said:
Can anyone tell me; am I even setting up the integral correctly?

Double check your form defining the Fourier coefficents. The ##e^{-ikx}## doesn't have period ##L## for ##k=1##. Shouldn't it be something more like ##e^{-i\frac{2k\pi}{L}x}##? ##e^{-ikx}## is used in the transform over the whole line.
 
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Dick said:
Double check your form defining the Fourier coefficents. The ##e^{-ikx}## doesn't have period ##L## for ##k=1##. Shouldn't it be something more like ##e^{-i\frac{2k\pi}{L}x}##? ##e^{-ikx}## is used in the transform over the whole line.

Thnx much for that Dick! That was the fix I needed. Now it brings to my mind a question about the form of the exponential argument. The author
wrote
$$ C_k = \frac{1}{L} \int_0^L e^{-ikx} f(x) dx $$
and I used the form literally, but now I am concerned that I missed a basic Fourier series concept. The author had written (before the above equation) that
$$ kL = 2 \pi n $$
So the form I should have used would appear as
$$ C_n = \frac{1}{L} \int_0^L e^{-i \frac{2 \pi n}{L} x} f(x) dx $$
where I substituted ## k = \textstyle \frac{2 \pi n}{L} ## in the exponent's argument. Am I correct on this point?
 
GreyNoise said:
Thnx much for that Dick! That was the fix I needed. Now it brings to my mind a question about the form of the exponential argument. The author
wrote
$$ C_k = \frac{1}{L} \int_0^L e^{-ikx} f(x) dx $$
and I used the form literally, but now I am concerned that I missed a basic Fourier series concept. The author had written (before the above equation) that
$$ kL = 2 \pi n $$
So the form I should have used would appear as
$$ C_n = \frac{1}{L} \int_0^L e^{-i \frac{2 \pi n}{L} x} f(x) dx $$
where I substituted ## k = \textstyle \frac{2 \pi n}{L} ## in the exponent's argument. Am I correct on this point?

Not quite, but it depends in part on how you plan to use the ##C_n##.

Basically, it is always easiest to start with an orthonormal set of functions ##\{ u_k(x) \}##, which have the inner-product properties that
## \langle u_j, u_k \rangle = 0 ## if ##k \neq j## and ##\langle u_k,u_k \rangle = 1## for all ##k##. Here, ##\langle \cdot , \cdot \rangle## denotes the inner product for functions on ##[0,L]##:
$$ \langle f,g \rangle = \int_0^L f^*(x) g(x) \, dx, $$
where ##f^*## is the complex congugate of ##f##.

You can easily verify that the functions ##u_k(x) =(1/\sqrt{L}) \: e^{i 2 \pi k x/L}, \; k = 0, \pm 1, \pm 2, \ldots ## constitute an orthonormal set. So, if we expand a function ##f(x)## as
$$f(x) = \sum_{k=-\infty}^{\infty} c_k u_k(x), $$
we get (with almost no work) that the coefficients are
$$c_k = \langle u_k , f \rangle = \int_0^L u^*(x) f(x) \, dx = \frac{1}{\sqrt{L}} \int_0^L e^{-i 2 \pi k x/L} f(x) \; dx.$$

In other words, we can either use the expansion ##\sum c_k u_k## or use the expansion ##\sum_k \sqrt{L} C_k e^{i 2 \pi k x/L}## with your ##C_k## (because ##\text{my} \: c_k = \sqrt{L} \times \text{your} \: C_k##). The factor ##\sqrt{L}## needs to go somewhere, and IMHO it is easier to put it into the definition of the basis functions ##\{ u_k \}##.

Note added in edit: it turns out that what YOU wrote is also correct! You are using expansion functions ##f_k(x) = e^{i 2 \pi x k/L}, \; k = 0, \pm 1, \pm 2, \ldots## and coefficients ##C_k = (1/L) \int_0^L f^*_k(x) f(x) \, dx,##, so your ##k##th term of the expansion has the form
$$\text{term}\; k = \frac{1}{L} \int_0^L f^*_k(t) f(t) \, dt \times f_k(x),$$
and this is the same as the ##k##th term ##c_k u_k(x)## given above.
 
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Sorry for delayed response; thnx are in order; I was away on vacation. Thank you Dick and Ray. The posts got me back on top of the curve (my Fourier forays are ten years ago now), so I committed them to my notes. I might be back for more regarding the M. Chester text I am reading. Thnx again.
 

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