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The discussion revolves around finding the inverse of a specific upper triangular matrix. Participants clarify that the matrix must be square for an inverse to exist and explore methods for calculating the inverse. They identify the matrix as upper triangular and share their attempts at deriving its inverse, noting patterns in smaller matrices. The conversation highlights the importance of checking calculations and understanding matrix properties, leading to a general formula for the inverse of the n x n matrix. The thread concludes with a focus on refining the derived matrix and ensuring accuracy in the calculations.
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Homework Statement



I have to find the inverse for this generic matrix (the dimensions are not specified, but I assume its a square matrix, I don't know if that is necessary).

##A=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & -1 & -1 & -1 & \dots & -1 & -1 \\
0 & 1 & -1 & -1 & \dots & -1 & -1 \\
0 & 0 & 1 & -1 & \dots & -1 & -1 \\
\vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \ddots & \vdots & \vdots \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & \dots & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##

I think there must be a clever and fast way for calculating ##A^{-1}##, but I don't know how to do it.

Thanks in advance.
 
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It is necessary that matrix A be square for an inverse to exist.

It's not clear why you need to calculate the inverse. Are you trying to solve a system of linear equations?

In any event, the matrix A is a special kind of triangular matrix called an atomic triangular matrix, and there is a simple and easy method of calculating its inverse.
See this article for the details:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_matrix
 
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No, it's just an exercise. It asks explicitly to give the inverse Matrix.

Thank you verymuch :)

One detail, it's not an atomic matrix, is just upper triangular.
 
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Telemachus said:
No, it's just an exercise. It asks explicitly to give the inverse Matrix.

Thank you verymuch :)

One detail, it's not an atomic matrix, is just upper triangular.
I see that now. Sorry.
 
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No problem. I did it my way, I think its okey. I've assumed an ##n \times n## matrix, and found:

##A^{-1}=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & 1 & 2 & 3 & \dots & n-2 & n-1 \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 2 & \dots & n-3 & n-2 \\
0 & 0 & 1 & 1 & \dots & n-4 & n-3 \\
\vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \ddots & \vdots \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & \dots & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##

This is not right, I get trouble after the third column.
 
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Telemachus said:
No problem. I did it my way, I think its okey. I've assumed an ##n \times n## matrix, and found:

##A^{-1}=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & 1 & 2 & 3 & \dots & n-2 & n-1 \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 2 & \dots & n-3 & n-2 \\
0 & 0 & 1 & 1 & \dots & n-4 & n-3 \\
\vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \ddots & \vdots \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & \dots & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##

This is not right, I get trouble after the third column.
Instead of jumping right into n x n matrices, start with smaller matrices. I looked at the case with a 3 x 3 matrix, and then with a 4 x 4 matrix. There's a definite pattern that develops.
 
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Yes, I've tried that way, but wasn't that clear to me. The case for the ##3\times3## is contained in the first 3 rows and columns.

##A_{3\times3}^{-1}
=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & 1 & 2 \\
0 & 1 & 1 \\
0 & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##

Then for the ##4\times 4##:
##A_{4\times4}^{-1}=
=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & 1 & 2 & 4\\
0 & 1 & 1 & 2 \\
0 & 0 & 1 & 1 \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##

And for ##5\times5##

##A_{5\times5}^{-1}=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & 1 & 2 & 4 & 8\\
0 & 1 & 1 & 2 & 4 \\
0 & 0 & 1 & 1 & 2 \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 1 \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##

Then:

##A_{n\times n}^{-1}=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & 1 & 2 & 3 & \dots & 2^{n-3} & 2^{n-2} \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 2 & \dots & 2^{n-4} & 2^{n-3} \\
0 & 0 & 1 & 1 & \dots & 2^{n-5} & 2^{n-4} \\
\vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \ddots & \vdots \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & \dots & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##
 
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Telemachus said:
Yes, I've tried that way, but wasn't that clear to me. The case for the ##3\times3## is contained in the first 3 rows and columns.

##A_{3\times3}^{-1}
=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & 1 & 2 \\
0 & 1 & 1 \\
0 & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##

Then for the ##4\times 4##:
##A_{4\times4}^{-1}=
=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & 1 & 2 & 4\\
0 & 1 & 1 & 2 \\
0 & 0 & 1 & 1 \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##

And for ##5\times5##

##A_{5\times5}^{-1}=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & 1 & 2 & 4 & 8\\
0 & 1 & 1 & 2 & 4 \\
0 & 0 & 1 & 1 & 2 \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 1 \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##

Then:

##A_{n\times n}^{-1}=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & 1 & 2 & 3 & \dots & 2^{n-3} & 2^{n-2} \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 2 & \dots & 2^{n-4} & 2^{n-3} \\
0 & 0 & 1 & 1 & \dots & 2^{n-5} & 2^{n-4} \\
\vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \ddots & \vdots \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & \dots & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##

So, was your original matrix
\left[ \begin{matrix} 1 &amp; -1 &amp; -1 &amp; -1 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 1 &amp; -1 &amp; -1 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; -1 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 1<br /> \end{matrix} \right]<br />
not what was intended? When did the switch occur?
 
Ray Vickson said:
So, was your original matrix
\left[ \begin{matrix} 1 &amp; -1 &amp; -1 &amp; -1 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 1 &amp; -1 &amp; -1 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; -1 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 0 &amp; 1<br /> \end{matrix} \right]<br />
not what was intended? When did the switch occur?
The original matrix was n X n, not 4 X 4.
 
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Telemachus said:
And for ##5\times5##

##A_{5\times5}^{-1}=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & 1 & 2 & 4 & 8\\
0 & 1 & 1 & 2 & 4 \\
0 & 0 & 1 & 1 & 2 \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 1 & 1 \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##

Then:

##A_{n\times n}^{-1}=\left [
\begin{matrix}
1 & 1 & 2 & 3 & \dots & 2^{n-3} & 2^{n-2} \\
0 & 1 & 1 & 2 & \dots & 2^{n-4} & 2^{n-3} \\
0 & 0 & 1 & 1 & \dots & 2^{n-5} & 2^{n-4} \\
\vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \vdots & \ddots & \vdots \\
0 & 0 & 0 & 0 & \dots & 0 & 1 \\
\end{matrix}
\right]##
Your last matrix isn't following the pattern of the previous ones. Check the first row in the matrix just above.
 
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Mark44 said:
The original matrix was n X n, not 4 X 4.

Yes, I know. But the OP did some 3x3 and 4x4 examples, and I was just looking at the 4x4 case.
 
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Its done. I did as Mark said, by trying some tractable dimensions, and then generalized it. Thanks.
 
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Mark44 said:
Your last matrix isn't following the pattern of the previous ones. Check the first row in the matrix just above.
That 3 was just a typo. Sorry.
 

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