Find molar mass and number of degrees of freedom from heat capacities.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the molar mass and degrees of freedom of a gas using its heat capacities, specifically Cv = 650 J/(KgK) and Cp = 910 J/(KgK). The correct approach involves using the equations Cv = (nRP)/2 and Cp = nR(1 + P/2) to derive the degrees of freedom, which is determined to be 5. The molar mass is calculated as 31.96 g/mol, indicating the gas is likely oxygen. The participant initially struggled with unit conversions but ultimately confirmed that the ratios allowed for the degrees of freedom to be found without changing units.

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Hey having a bit of trouble with this one. I really don't know how to start. Think I just simply don't have the right equations or I'm using the wrong units. Hopefully you guys can help me.

Homework Statement



Find the molar mass and the number of degrees of freedom of molecules in a gas with known heat capacities: Cv = 650 J/(KgK) and Cp=910 J/(KgK).

Homework Equations



The equations that I can find in my book that I've been trying to figure out are :

1.Cv = (nRP)/2 where R = Gas constant and P = number of degrees of freedom. n= number of moles

2.Cp = nR(1+P/2)

3.Cp = Cv + R

The Attempt at a Solution



Well when I first started off I simply applied the Cv formula to the value of Cv and solve for P, the number of degrees of freedom. However when I did this, i got an answer of ~156 which I can immediately tell is not correct.

I am led to believe that I'm not using the correct units for Cv and Cp as they don't solve the last equation(3) correctly.
 
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Ok I just found the degrees of freedom.

Cp/Cv=1 + 2/P
7/5=1+2/P
P = 5 degrees of freedom.

Even though I'm still sure I have to change the units to find the Molar mass. I only found the degrees of freedom due to Cp/Cv is a ratio so units did not matter.

I have to somehow change the Cv and Cp units from J/(K*Kg) to J/(K*mol). My reasoning for this is that the gas constant R is J/(K*mol).
 
I think I might be correct here: If anyone can confirm? Turns out I didn't really need to change any units just yet.

Cv = nRp/2
n=31.28moles/kg

Molecular mass = Mass/n = 1kg/31.28moles = 31.96g/mol.

I assume this would be Oxygen molecules.
 
Everything's OK.
 

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