Find pH of Buffer: NaH2PO4 & Na2HPO4 Solution

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The discussion revolves around calculating the pH of a buffer solution made from sodium dihydrogen phosphate (NaH2PO4) and disodium hydrogen phosphate (Na2HPO4). Participants explore the appropriate methods and equations to determine the pH, including the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation, while addressing uncertainties related to the provided data.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster (OP) presents an attempt to calculate pH but expresses uncertainty about their approach, particularly regarding the dissociation of the phosphate compounds.
  • Some participants suggest using the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation, noting its relevance for buffer solutions.
  • One participant points out the need for the pKa value, which is not provided, creating a challenge for applying the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of knowing the molecular weights and potential water of crystallization for accurate molarity calculations.
  • There is a suggestion that the question likely assumes the use of anhydrous salts, which could lead to an equimolar solution.
  • One participant hints that if the solution is equimolar and one additional piece of information is known, the pH could be determined directly.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the relevance of the Henderson-Hasselbalch equation for this type of problem, but there is no consensus on how to proceed due to the lack of provided constants and the ambiguity regarding the form of the salts used.

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Limitations include the absence of the pKa value and molecular weights, as well as assumptions about the salts being anhydrous, which may affect the calculations.

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Homework Statement



A buffer is made by dissolving 13.0g of sodium dihydrogen phosphate, NaH2PO4, and 15.0g of disodium hydrogen phosphate, Na2HPO4, in a litre of solution. What is the pH of the buffer?

a) 7.84
b)7.47
c)7.20
d)6.85
e)6.63


Homework Equations



pH = -log [H+]

The Attempt at a Solution



First, I'm not sure if this is right, but I assumed that NaH2PO4 dissassociates into Na+ and then H2PO4-, and then H+, H+, PO4 3- ions. Second I assumed that it dissassociates into Na+, Na+, H+ and PO4 3- ions.

2)
M(Na2HPO4) = 141.96
m=15.0g
n=.105664

3) M(NaH2PO4) = 119.98
m=13.0g
n=.10835 * 2 = 0.2167 (since hydrogen ion concentration doubles)

4) 0.105664+0.2167=0.322 mol H+

5) pH = -log(.322) = 0.492

This is completely off. Please help. I realize I have a completely wrong approach, but I don't know what else can be done for this problem.
 
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While HPO42- and H2PO4- do dissociate slightly, you can safely ignore it, and assume their concentrations can be calculated from known number of moles and volume.

Have you heard about Henderson-Hasselbalch equation? This is just a rearranged acid dissociation constant used in such cases.
 
The Henderson-Hasselbalch equation is

pH = pKa + log([A-]/[HA])

However, I don't know the pKa because no constant is given.

Gah. I still don't know what to do.
 
You'll have to find the constant for NaH2PO4 in some table of values, or look online.
 
And to get the relevant molarities you will have to know molecular weights. Were they not given? Or the formulae including water of crystallisation, because these usually come as crystals with stoichiometric water such as Na2 HPO4.7H2O and NaH2PO4.H2O (but also sometimes sold anhydrous)? If not given you will have to state your assumption, but it seems a bit ridiculous to give a multiple choice question with incomplete starting data.

Edit: on second thoughts you can eliminate several of those options qualitatively without calculation but not yet obvious to me how you can home in on just one.
 
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I guess OP is expected to assume anhydrous salts. That's the way these questions are usually constructed (whether it makes sense, or not). This way you end with (almost) equimolar solution.
 
OK if you know they are equimolar and you know one other thing you can say the pH right off. :smile:
 

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