Find resistance of resistor connected in series

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the resistance of a lamp in a flashlight circuit powered by two series-connected batteries, each with known internal resistances. The original poster expresses confusion regarding how to relate the known current and internal resistances to find the lamp's resistance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the importance of understanding the circuit configuration and the role of the lamp as a resistor in series with the batteries. Some suggest using Ohm's law to relate voltage, current, and resistance, while others emphasize the need for clarity on what is being solved.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided feedback on the original poster's sketches and attempts, with some suggesting clearer definitions of the problem and others guiding towards using known quantities to formulate equations. There is an ongoing exploration of how to approach the problem without reaching a definitive solution.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a lack of information regarding the electric potential across the lamp and expresses a desire for guidance on how to proceed with the calculations. The discussion includes references to the total voltage supplied by the batteries and the implications of internal resistance.

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Homework Statement



Two 1.80 V batteries—with their positive terminals in the same direction—are inserted in series into the barrel of a flashlight. One battery has an internal resistance of R1 = 0.280Ω, the other an internal resistance of R2 = 0.155Ω. When the switch is closed, a current of 0.600 A passes through the lamp.

Homework Equations



R = V/I resistance = electric potential / current

The Attempt at a Solution


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Underlined in black is the data I was given, as you can see in the question. I drew two batteries and a lightbulb connected in series. I multiplied 0.6 amps times resistance for each battery, and found the electric potential in volts for each battery. Knowing only the current in the lightbulb, but not the electric potential or the resistance, how am I supposed to solve this problem? I only have current in the lightbulb and resistance in the batteries, and I don't know how to use that to determine resistance in the lightbulb.

Thanks.

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I'd start with drawing a simple closed circuit.

I would've also mentioned what I wanted to actually find, in the original problem. This would be for any and all reading your OP.
 
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If you examine a flashlight in detail, there is a connection to the outer edge of the base of the light bulb that usually returns along the barrel of the metal flashlight to the bottom end of the lower battery. This makes it so the filament of the light bulb is a resistor/resistance in a complete series circuit. (Tried responding to your sketch below, but my reply didn't work)...You need to include two 1.8 Volt batteries in series. Then use ohm's law, V=I*R to solve for R. The calculations are kind of fun, but you do need to make an effort.
 
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Here is my updated sketch to match the feedback from you guys.

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With electric potential completely unknown, and resistance of the system only partially solved, I have no idea how to find RL AKA the lamp's resistance. Can someone point me in the right direction, maybe what to solve for first or something.
 
The question is "What is the lamp's resistance" just to be clear.
 
I forgot to add that the batteries have 1.8 V of electric potential each. Does anyone have any clues? I'm clueless and would really like to learn how to do this kind of problem.
 
PhysicsBoyMan said:
Here is my updated sketch to match the feedback from you guys.

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With electric potential completely unknown, and resistance of the system only partially solved, I have no idea how to find RL AKA the lamp's resistance. Can someone point me in the right direction, maybe what to solve for first or something.

You did not include the voltage sources. Without voltage source, no current flows. A real battery is equivalent with an ideal voltage source in series with its internal resistance. The problem says, there are two 1.8 V batteries.
 
What's the total voltage supplied by the battery EMF's? What's an expression for the total resistance? (You can use a variable for the unknown resistance of the light bulb). You know the current. You should be able to write Ohm's law using those quantities.

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I figured it out. I found the voltage reduction by each battery by going 0.6 amps x resistance value for battery. Then I took 3.6 V combined total from both batteries, subtracted both of the hits the voltage takes from the batteries that I calculated before, and I had the voltage for the lamp. Then I did the new voltage divided by the same current and found the resistance of the lamp.
 
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Yes, that's correct.
 

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