Find the derivative of a function

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The discussion focuses on finding the derivative of the function E(t) = 100te^(1 + cos((2πt)/365)). Participants analyze the application of the product and chain rules in differentiation. There is clarification on the correct placement of terms in the derivative expression, emphasizing proper notation to avoid ambiguity. The final derivative is expressed as 100[1 - (2π/365)t sin(2πt/365)]e^(1 + cos(2πt/365)). The conversation concludes with a suggestion to stop at this point, indicating the solution is satisfactory.
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Homework Statement


E(t) = 100te1+cos((2π*t)/365

What is the derivative of this function?

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The Attempt at a Solution



100*e1+cos((2π*t)/365) + 100t*e1+cos((2π*t)/365) * -(2π/365)sin(2πt/365)

I have tried to use the rules for derivative of products, and also used the chain rule.
 
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The sine should not be inside the exponent - example:
##\frac{d}{dt}e^{\sin(t)} = e^{\sin(t)}\cos(t)##

Note:
It can make for better formatting to use ##\exp[f(t)]## instead of ##e^{f(t)}## when ##f(t)## is quite involved.
 
Simon Bridge said:
The sine should not be inside the exponent - example:
##\frac{d}{dt}e^{\sin(t)} = e^{\sin(t)}\cos(t)##

Note:
It can make for better formatting to use ##\exp[f(t)]## instead of ##e^{f(t)}## when ##f(t)## is quite involved.
But other than that, is it correct? So can I put:

100e1+cos(2πt)/365) (1 - (2π/365)sin(2πt/365) t) ?
 
##\frac{d}{dt}\big[1+\cos(2\pi t/365) \big] \neq 1-(2\pi/365)\sin(2\pi t/365)##
The main trick with using chain rule is to keep careful track of what is what.

Try ##g = e^{u(v(t))}## so ##\frac{dg}{dt} = e^{u(v(t))}\frac{du}{dv}\frac{dv}{dt}## and work out du/dv and dv/dt separately.

[no - got it right first time ...]
 
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Simon Bridge said:
##\frac{d}{dt}\big[1+\cos(2\pi t/365) \big] \neq 1-(2\pi/365)\sin(2\pi t/365)##
That's not what he's doing.

ChrisBrandsborg said:
But other than that, is it correct? So can I put:

100e1+cos(2πt)/365) (1 - (2π/365)sin(2πt/365) t) ?
This is correct, though it's more common to put the factor of ##t## in front of the sin. That way there's no ambiguity it's multiplying the function rather than the argument of the function.
 
Oh I'm having fun reading the notation ... like reading "*-" as a "-" instead of "multiplied by the negative of". My bad:
$$\frac{d}{dt}E(t) = 100\left[1-(2\pi /365)t\sin(2\pi t/365) \right]e^{1+\cos(2\pi t/365)}$$ ... something like that?.
 
Simon Bridge said:
Oh I'm having fun reading the notation ... like reading "*-" as a "-" instead of "multiplied by the negative of". My bad:
$$\frac{d}{dt}E(t) = 100\left[1-(2\pi /365)t\sin(2\pi t/365) \right]e^{1+\cos(2\pi t/365)}$$ ... something like that?.

Yes, that is what I have now. Is it done? Or can I simplify it? :)
 
I'd stop there.
 

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