Find the eigenfunction and eigenvalues of ##\sin\frac{d}{d\phi}##

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The discussion focuses on finding the eigenfunction and eigenvalues of the operator ##\sin\frac{d}{d\phi}##. The user proposes that if ##f(\phi)## is the eigenfunction and ##\lambda## is the eigenvalue, then the equation ##\sin\frac{d f}{d\phi} = \lambda f## must hold. The user explores differentiating the equation and applying a Taylor expansion but struggles with the non-linear differential equation. Ultimately, it is concluded that the eigenfunctions are defined by the relationship ##\operatorname{Ci}\left(\sin^{-1}\lambda f\right)/\lambda +C =\phi##, with the eigenvalue being ##\lambda##.

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Homework Statement
Find the eigenfunction and eigenvalues of ##\sin\frac{d}{d\phi}##
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Here is what I tried. Suppose ##f(\phi)## and ##\lambda## is the eigenfunction and eigenvalue of the given operator. That is,

$$\sin\frac{d f}{d\phi} = \lambda f$$
Differentiating once,
$$f'' \cos f' = \lambda f' = f'' \sqrt{1-\sin^2f'}$$
$$f''\sqrt{1-\lambda^2 f^2} = \lambda f'$$

I have no idea how to solve this non-linear differential equation. Is this approach even correct? I have also tried expanding the left-hand side of the eigenvalue equation into Taylor expansion of ##\sin(f')##. All I get is a function containing higher derivatives of ##f## on one side and ##\lambda f## on the other side and once again I am stuck not knowing how to proceed. Please help
 
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Wannabe Physicist said:
Homework Statement:: Find the eigenfunction and eigenvalues of ##\sin\frac{d}{d\phi}##
Relevant Equations:: .

Here is what I tried. Suppose ##f(\phi)## and ##\lambda## is the eigenfunction and eigenvalue of the given operator. That is,

$$\sin\frac{d f}{d\phi} = \lambda f$$
Differentiating once,
$$f'' \cos f' = \lambda f' = f'' \sqrt{1-\sin^2f'}$$
$$f''\sqrt{1-\lambda^2 f^2} = \lambda f'$$

I have no idea how to solve this non-linear differential equation. Is this approach even correct? I have also tried expanding the left-hand side of the eigenvalue equation into Taylor expansion of ##\sin(f')##. All I get is a function containing higher derivatives of ##f## on one side and ##\lambda f## on the other side and once again I am stuck not knowing how to proceed. Please help
It isn't pretty and I doubt there is an expression for ##f## in terms of elementary functions, but you could just take arcsine of both sides and directly integrate.
 
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Thanks for your response. This is what I did

$$\frac{df}{d\phi} = \sin^{-1}(\lambda f)$$
On integrating the ##df## integral using online integral calculator
$$ \frac{\operatorname{Ci}\left(\arcsin\left(\lambda f\right)\right)}{\lambda} = \phi+C$$

It seems this cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions, just as you said. I am trying to see if this can be expressed in the form of ##f=f(\phi)##. Is it even possible?
 
##\sin\left(\frac{d}{d\phi}\right) = \mathfrak{Im} \left( e^{i\frac{d}{dx}}\right)##

Does this help?
 
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Wannabe Physicist said:
Thanks for your response. This is what I did

$$\frac{df}{d\phi} = \sin^{-1}(\lambda f)$$
On integrating the ##df## integral using online integral calculator
$$ \frac{\operatorname{Ci}\left(\arcsin\left(\lambda f\right)\right)}{\lambda} = \phi+C$$

It seems this cannot be expressed in terms of elementary functions, just as you said. I am trying to see if this can be expressed in the form of ##f=f(\phi)##. Is it even possible?
It would probably just be an even more horrible function. In the end, you can always just define a function which is the inverse of another, but that's little more than giving something a name. Insight comes when there are known properties of the variously named special functions.
 
Haborix said:
It would probably just be an even more horrible function. In the end, you can always just define a function which is the inverse of another, but that's little more than giving something a name. Insight comes when there are known properties of the variously named special functions.
Okay. So I should simply state that the eigenfunctions are all those functions ##f(\phi)## which satisfy ##\operatorname{Ci}\left(\sin^{-1}\lambda f\right)/\lambda +C =\phi## and the corresponding eigenvalue is ##\lambda##. Is that right?
 
dextercioby said:
##\sin\left(\frac{d}{d\phi}\right) = \mathfrak{Im} \left( e^{i\frac{d}{dx}}\right)##

Does this help?
I do not understand how to use this fact actually. I am trying to eyeball some eigenfunction for ##e^{i\frac{d}{dx}}## but no success as of yet.
 

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