Find the equation of lines to an ellipse

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The discussion revolves around finding the equations of lines related to an ellipse defined by the equation 4x² + 9y² = 36. Participants are exploring the tangent line at a specific point and a line passing through the origin to that point where x = 3/2.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to use implicit differentiation to find the slope of the tangent line and is seeking guidance on how to derive the line that passes through the origin. Other participants question how many points correspond to x = 3/2 on the ellipse and discuss the general method for finding the equation of a line between two points.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various approaches and questioning assumptions. Some have provided calculations for slopes and equations, while others are exploring the implications of specific values and the need for coordinates. There is no explicit consensus, but productive dialogue is occurring.

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There is a mention of a subsequent question involving a different ellipse equation ax² + by² = c, where the participant is uncertain about how to find the y-coordinate corresponding to a given x-coordinate. This indicates a potential gap in information or understanding that is being navigated in the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Find the equation of the tangent, and the line which passes through the origin to the point where x= 3/2

4x2+9y2 = 36

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The Attempt at a Solution



Using implicit differentiation

d/dy [4x2+9y2] =36

8x+18y dy/dx = 0

dy/dx = -8x/18y

Coordinates are (1.5, 1.732)

dy/dx = -8(1.5)/18(1.732) = -0.385

y-1.732/x-1.5 = 1/0.385

y= x- 1.5 +1.732 (equation of tangent)

But I'm stuck now how to get the line that passes through the origin to the point where x=1.5

Thanks in advance for any replies!
 
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If x = 3/2, what point or points does this value of x determine on the ellipse? Can't you figure out the equation of a line if you know 2 points on that line?
 
How do you find the equation of a line between two points?

note: how many points on the ellipse have x=3/2?
 
So if I want it to pass through the origin I can find the slope by using

1.732/1.5 = 1.155

then I can use the equation y = ax+b
where
a = 1.155
and b = 0 (y-intercept)

to give me y = 1.155x+0

does this look correct?
 
So that problem worked out fine,
But the next question asks me to find the equation to a tangent of ax2+by2= c at the point where x = d

So how would I approach this?

Ive got as far as...

d/dy [ax2+by2] = c

dy/dx = -2x/2y = -x/y

by now I need the coordinates, I know that x-coordinate = d, but what would the y-coordinate be?
 
Hello. Substitution.
 
what am I substituting though?

Do I substitute with f(x) or dy/dx?
 
x = d.
 

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