Find the equivalent resistance (Req) of the simple circuit.

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The discussion focuses on calculating the equivalent resistance between points a and b in a circuit with various resistors. The correct approach involves recognizing that the 10 ohm resistor is effectively shorted and can be ignored in the calculations. The 6, 12, and 4 ohm resistors in parallel yield an equivalent resistance of 2 ohms, which is then in series with a 3 ohm resistor, resulting in a total of 7 ohms. Participants clarify the steps and confirm the calculations, addressing minor errors in justification. The final equivalent resistance is confirmed to be 7 ohms.
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Homework Statement



What is the equivalent resistance between points a and b in the Figure shown.
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Homework Equations



Equivalent of two resistors (e.g R1 and R2)= R1*R2/(R1+R2)
Equivalent of two resistors (e.g R3 and R4) = R3+R4

The Attempt at a Solution



Step 1: 6, 12 and 4 ohm resistors are in parallel, which results to 2 ohms.
Step 2: the 2 ohm resistor and the 3 ohm resistor are in series, which results to 4 ohm.
Step 3: Now we have the following circuit.
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This was slightly confusing. Since there is a short circuit parallel to the 10 ohm resistors, current will flow from point a through the 4 ohm resistor then through the 3 ohm resistor. The current will bypass the 10 ohm resistor and hence it will be ignored in the equivalent resistance calculation. 4 ohm in series with 3 ohm resistor = 7 ohms.

I know the answer is correct (7 ohm) but I would like to confirm my concept regarding the short circuit wire is correct.
 
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I think your Step 2 has a slight error in its justification.
Yes, the 10 ohm resistor can be ignored... since it is shorted... that is to say, the voltage drop across that 10 ohm resistor is zero.

[edit:
You can also say that the 10 ohm is in parallel with the 0 ohm...
so R_eq for that parallel combination is (10)(0)/(10+0)=0 ohms.]
 
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robphy said:
I think your Step 2 has a slight error in its justification.
Yes, the 10 ohm resistor can be ignored... since it is shorted... that is to say, the voltage drop across that 10 ohm resistor is zero.
The 6, 12 and 4 ohm resistors are in parallel resulting in 2 ohms. As a result, this is in series with the 2 ohm resistors. I can't seem to find where the error is?
 
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sugz said:
Step 2: the 2 ohm resistor and the 3 ohm resistor are in series, which results to 4 ohm.

It's a 2-ohm in series with the equivalent-2-ohm, yielding 4-ohms.
 
robphy said:
You wroteIt's a 2-ohm in series with the equivalent-2-ohm, yielding 4-ohms.
Sorry about that. I must have made a mistake with that. Thanks for pointing that out!
 
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