Find the final speed of the box

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The problem involves a 44.4 kg box being pushed along a rough, horizontal floor with a constant applied force. The discussion centers on calculating the work done by friction and finding the final speed of the box after being pushed a certain distance.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of net force and work done, questioning how to correctly apply forces and work in the context of the problem. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between net work, kinetic energy, and final speed.

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The discussion is active with participants exploring different methods to find the final speed. Some have provided hints regarding the net work and kinetic energy relationship, while others are questioning their calculations and assumptions about forces.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of forces and work, with some confusion about the application of gravitational acceleration in this context. There is also mention of homework constraints and the need for clarity on the problem setup.

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there are 2 part for this problem I got the part one but i didnt get another one so helpppp please...

1)A 44.4 kg box initially at rest is pushed 5.3m along a rough, horizontal floor with a constant applied horizonta force of 181.646N.
The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s2.
If the coefficient of friction between box and floor is 0.38, find the work done by the friction. Answer in units of J.
The answer for this question is -876.33

2) find the final speed of the box. Answer UNits of m/s. Please help me in this problem...post the reply as soon as possible if u can...
 
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Hint: What's the net work done on the box? And its resulting kinetic energy?
 
the fnet= ma that is 44.4 kg times 9.8 and i got 435.12 is that correct
 
to find the final speed...do i use v=vf-vi/t
 
jenita said:
the fnet= ma that is 44.4 kg times 9.8 and i got 435.12 is that correct
No. The acceleration is 9.8 only if it were falling freely. What you've calculated is the weight of the box.

You can either find the net force and calculate the acceleration, or find the net work and calculate the kinetic energy.
 
do u subtract the applied horizontal force and the work done by friction to find the net force
 
i have a problem very similar to this..do u subtract the applied horizontal force and the work done by friction to find the net force?
 
Aikenfan said:
i have a problem very similar to this..do u subtract the applied horizontal force and the work done by friction to find the net force?

You either find the net force or the net work. If you want the net force, subtract the friction force from the horizontal force. Then you can find acceleration and use a kinematic.

Or you could find the net work (subtract friction work from horizontal work) and find the change in kinetic energy. Then you can find the final velocity
 
so it would be -876.44 + 181.646 = -694.684
Fnet = ma
-694.684 = 44.4a
a = -15.65 ?
 
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Aikenfan said:
so it would be -876.44 + 181.646 = -694.684
Fnet = ma
-694.684 = 44.4a
a = -15.65 ?

Youve got FORCES and WORKS. 1 of them is multiplied by the distance 5.3m. You cannot add them together until you have all FORCES or all WORKS
 
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so the net work would be -876.44 + 962.7 (which is 181.646 x 5.3) = 86.28
 
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Aikenfan said:
so the net work would be -876.44 + 962.7 (which is 181.646 x 5.3) = 86.28

Yes, and this is the change in kinetic energy
 
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ok, now that I've got the change in kinetic energy:
do i do:
KE = 1/2mv^2
86.28 = 1/2(44.4) v^2
divide both sides by 22.2 and get 3.886 and then find the square route of that to get the speed = 1.97 m/s
 
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by the way, thank you very much!
 
  • #15
Looks good
 
  • #16
thank u aiken fan...no actually mrs aiken..lol...
 

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