Find the image set under a function

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The discussion revolves around determining the image set of the function f(x) = 1/4 (x - 1)^2 - 9, as well as exploring the inverse function g(x) defined on a specific domain. Participants express confusion regarding the concepts of image sets and inverses, drawing parallels to finding ranges and discussing the implications of the function's vertex and intercepts.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants attempt to clarify the meaning of the image set and its relationship to the function's domain. There are discussions about the vertex of the parabola and its significance in determining minimum values. Questions arise about the notation used for the domain and the process of finding the inverse function.

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Some participants have offered insights into the characteristics of the function and its graph, while others express ongoing confusion about the concepts being discussed. There is a recognition of the importance of the vertex in determining the minimum value, and some guidance has been provided regarding the process of finding the inverse function.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of function properties, including the distinction between image sets and ranges, and the implications of specific domain constraints. There is uncertainty regarding the notation and the interpretation of the inverse function process.

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1. f(x) = 1/4 (x - 1)^2 - 9. What is the image set of the function f? Express in interval notation.

g(x) = 1/4 (x - 1)^2 - 9. (1 ≤ x ≥ 7). Specify the domain and image set of the inverse function g^-1, and find it's rule.

I really don't understand what happens in these questions. I have looked at numerous examples, the easy ones look like it's similar to finding the range, and the hard ones i just don't get. Can someone please break it down for me.
 
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the question asks based on the allowable values of x (the domain) what values can the function x take (the image)

for example say x and f are both defined on the real line, for any x, f can never produce values less than [itex]8\frac{3}{4}[/itex], why?
 
grain1 said:
1. f(x) = 1/4 (x - 1)^2 - 9. What is the image set of the function f? Express in interval notation.

g(x) = 1/4 (x - 1)^2 - 9. (1 ≤ x ≥ 7). Specify the domain and image set of the inverse function g^-1, and find it's rule.

I really don't understand what happens in these questions. I have looked at numerous examples, the easy ones look like it's similar to finding the range, and the hard ones i just don't get. Can someone please break it down for me.

What does 1 ≤ x ≥ 7 mean ?
 
I suspect that grain1 meant to say that [itex]1\le x\le 7[/itex].

The graph of g(x) is a parabola with vertex at x= 1, y= -9, opening upward. In particular, for x between 1 and 7, the graph is one side of the parabola so it is "one to one" and there is an inverse. You find that inverse by solving the equation [itex](1/4)(x-1)^2- 9= y[/itex] of x. That's easy- [itex](x- 1)^2= 4(y+ 9)[/itex] and you can just take the square root of both sides. Knowing that you want x> 1 tells you which sign to use.
 
Thanks Lanedance...

-8 3/4 is the y - intercept, does this mean my image will be (-8 3/4, ∞)?

SammyS ... yes i meant to type 1≤x≤7.

HallsofIvy... i thought the inverse was found by switching the x and y in the oringinal formula i.e y = 1/4 (x-1)^2 - 9 becomes x = 1/4 (y-1)^2 - 9 and then solve for y

I think i am more confused now than i was.
 
grain1 said:
Thanks Lanedance...

-8 3/4 is the y - intercept, does this mean my image will be (-8 3/4, ∞)?
yes that image is correct, however it is just a concidence x=-8 3/4 is the y - intercept, the important part is that it is the minimum of the function

grain1 said:
SammyS ... yes i meant to type 1≤x≤7.

HallsofIvy... i thought the inverse was found by switching the x and y in the oringinal formula i.e y = 1/4 (x-1)^2 - 9 becomes x = 1/4 (y-1)^2 - 9 and then solve for y
to find an inverse never change x & y, the just confuses things, if you have
[tex] y= y(x) = f(x)[/tex]

see if you can solve for x as a function of y which gives you the inverse function
[tex] x= x(y) = f^{-1}(y)[/tex]


grain1 said:
I think i am more confused now than i was.
 
Thank you again Lanedance, you are being very helpful.

I thought the min was at the vertex... i.e. -9?


g(x) = 1/4 (x - 1)^2 - 9 (1 ≤ x ≤ 7)


g[itex]^{-1}[/itex](y) = 1/4 (y - 1)^2 - 9
x = 1/4 (y - 1)^2 - 9
4x + 36 = (y - 1)^2
√(4x + 36) = y - 1
+2x + 6 + 1 = y
2x + 7 = g[itex]^{-1}[/itex]

Can you tell me what is next?

can i write the above as my inverse and that will give me an image of (9, 21)?
 

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