Find the integral of sinx/cos^3x dx

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The discussion revolves around finding the integral of sin(x)/cos^3(x) dx, which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically integration techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore different methods of rewriting the integrand, with some suggesting the use of trigonometric identities like tan(x) and sec^2(x). Questions arise regarding the treatment of the numerator and the implications of substitutions.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering various perspectives on how to approach the integral. Some guidance has been provided regarding the relationship between the functions involved, but no consensus on a single method has been reached.

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Participants reference different approaches learned in class and discuss the appropriateness of using logarithmic functions versus power rules for integration, indicating a variety of educational backgrounds and methods being considered.

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Find the integral of sinx/cos^3x dx

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How would I approach such a problem?
 
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If that's a cos(x) raised to the 3rd power in the denominator, then your integrand is just tan(x)sec^2(x) which is easy since the derivative of tan(x) is sec^2(x).
 


Wait so if I substitute U for cos(x)^3, then du=tan(x)sec^2(x)?
 


No, he's saying that the integrand can be rewritten as tanxsec^2 x which can be easily integrated.
 


the integrand as in the whole problem? So sin(x)/cos(x)^3=tan(x)sec(x)^2??
 


tjbateh said:
the integrand as in the whole problem? So sin(x)/cos(x)^3=tan(x)sec(x)^2??

The integrand of an integral is the expression between the summa \int and the differential dx. The equation you wrote above is correct for the integrand, which you can now integrate easily.
 


tjbateh said:
the integrand as in the whole problem? So sin(x)/cos(x)^3=tan(x)sec(x)^2??

Yes. If

y=\sec^2(x)


Then:


\frac{dy}{dx} = \cdots
 


tan(x)sec(x)?? But i don't understand, what happens to the sin(x) in the numerator..It seems like were just talking about the denominator.
 


tjbateh said:
tan(x)sec(x)?? But i don't understand, what happens to the sin(x) in the numerator..It seems like were just talking about the denominator.

Do you remember the common definition of tan(x) = sin(x)/cos(x)?
 
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y=sec^2(x) \Rightarrow y=\frac{1}{cos(x)}\frac{1}{cos(x)}

Use the product rule to differentiate that, you will see you have your derivative that is the [almost] the same as the integrand. Hence you have the answer.
 
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wow, it finally makes sense! Thank you everyone!
 
  • #12


Here is much simpler approach:

\int{\frac{sinx}{cos^3x} dx}

u=cos(x)

du=-sin(x)dx

dx=-du/sin(x)

\int{\frac{sin(x)}{u^3}*\frac{-du}{sin(x)}}=

=-\int \frac{du}{u^3}

:wink:
 
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This was more of the approach we learned in class. Would you then use the LN function?
 
  • #14


You use \ln if the integrand were 1/u where the denominator has a power of one, but for any other power, use the power rule for integrals.
 

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