Find the level curve through the point on the gradient

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The discussion revolves around finding the level curve through a specific point related to a gradient in the context of multivariable calculus. Participants are exploring the relationship between level curves and gradients, particularly focusing on the function defined as f(x, y) = y - 2/x.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are examining the definition of a function related to a level curve and questioning the validity of defining f(x, y) in a particular way. There is also an exploration of the implications of the gradient being perpendicular to the level curve.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the definitions and properties of level curves. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between the function and its gradient, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of defining functions in the context of level curves and gradients, and there is an ongoing exploration of the assumptions underlying these definitions.

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The answer is F. I don't how to get this. I know that it is perpendicular and must have a horizontal tangent. How do I come to this answer?[/B]
 
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Cocoleia said:

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Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution


The answer is F. I don't how to get this. I know that it is perpendicular and must have a horizontal tangent. How do I come to this answer?[/B]
Let's look at one choice and see why it isn't an answer.
D. y = 2/x
Let f(x, y) = y - 2/x
Then ##\nabla f = <-2x^{-2}, 1>##, so ##\nabla f(1, 2) = <-2, 1> \ne \vec{j}##
 
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Mark44 said:
Let's look at one choice and see why it isn't an answer.
D. y = 2/x
Let f(x, y) = y - 2/x
Then ##\nabla f = <-2x^{-2}, 1>##, so ##\nabla f(1, 2) = <-2, 1> \ne \vec{j}##
I understand, but why is f(x,y) = y- 2/x
 
Cocoleia said:
I understand, but why is f(x,y) = y- 2/x
I'm defining that way. With this definition, f(x, y) = 0 is equivalent to y = 2/x.
 
Mark44 said:
I'm defining that way. With this definition, f(x, y) = 0 is equivalent to y = 2/x.
Can we always define it as being this way ?
 
Cocoleia said:
Can we always define it as being this way ?
When you're talking about level curves, as this problem is, the equation y = 2/x represents the level curve f(x, y) = 0, with f(x, y) = y - 2/x.
 
Here's another way to look at it. Each of your examples except (E) is of the form ##y=f(x)## for some ##f(x)##. It's not good form to use ##f(x,y)## in the same problem you have ##f(x)##, so call ##F(x,y) = y - f(x)##. Then ##\nabla F(x,y) = -f'(x)\hat i + 1\hat j## so ##\nabla F(1,2) = -f'(1)\hat i + 1\hat j =0 \hat i + \hat j## means ##f'(1) = 0##. That is quick and easy to check for each ##f(x)## and you will easily will see (F) works.
 

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