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The discussion revolves around evaluating limits in calculus, specifically focusing on two limit problems involving square roots and trigonometric functions. Participants are exploring the conditions under which these limits exist and the methods to approach them.

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  • Some participants discuss the application of conjugates to simplify expressions, while others express confusion about the setup of the limit problems. There are attempts to manipulate expressions involving sine and to clarify the variables involved in the limits.

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Homework Statement


Evaluate the limit if it exists.


Homework Equations


[tex]lim_{x\to2} \frac{\sqrt{x-6}-2}{\sqrt{x-3}-1}[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


Completely lost, I've tried, finding the conjugate of both the numerator or denominator and I'm unable to find a solution.
 
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Are you sure that is the problem? AT x= 2, the fraction is
[tex]\frac{2i- 2}{i- 1}= 2[/tex]
Nothing hard about that!

Perhaps you meant
[tex]\frac{\sqrt{6- x}- 2}{\sqrt{3- x}-1}[/itex]<br /> which is "0/0" when x= 2.<br /> Use the "conjugates" as you mention- multiply both numerator and denominator by [itex](\sqrt{x-6}+2)(\sqrt{x-3}+1)[/itex]. You will get x<sup>2</sup>-4 in the numerator and x-2 in the denominator and can cancel.[/tex]
 
ok, here's another one I don't understand.

Homework Equations


[tex]lim_{t \to 0} \frac{x+1}{xsin(\Pi x)}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


[tex]lim_{t \to 0} \frac{x+1}{xsin(\Pi x)}(\frac{x-1}{x-1})[/tex]
[tex]lim_{t \to 0} \frac{(x^2-1)}{(x^2-1)sin(\Pi x)}[/tex]
[tex]lim_{t \to 0} \frac{(1)}{sin(\Pi x)}[/tex]

At this point I get stuck... the [tex]sin(\Pi x)[/tex] is still 0. I tried using some of the trig identities, that I actually remembered, and got this.

[tex]lim_{t \to 0} \frac{(sin^2(\Pi x) + cos^2(\Pi x)}{sin(\Pi x)}[/tex]

Now I thought if I could get I could get the numerator in terms of sine, I could simple divide into it, but I'm not sure if this would work :-/... any suggestions?
 
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is it possible for me to do

[tex]lim_{t \to 0} \frac{(1)}{sin(\Pi x)}[/tex]
[tex]lim_{t \to 0} \frac{(1)}{csc(\Pi x)}[/tex]
[tex]lim_{t \to 0} sin(\Pi x)[/tex]

?
 
mmm never mind. there was a problem in my solution. [tex]xsin(\Pi x)(x-1)[/tex] does not equal [tex](x2-1)sin(\Pi x)[/tex]... I will try again...
 
ok, I think I got it.

[tex]lim_{t \to 1} \frac{x+1}{xsin(\Pi x)}[/tex]

[tex]lim_{t \to 1} \frac{x+1}{xsin(\Pi x)}(\frac{csc(\Pi x)}{csc(\Pi x)})[/tex]

[tex]lim_{t \to 1} \frac{(x+1)(csc(\Pi x)}{x}[/tex]

[tex]lim_{t \to 1} \frac{(x+1)(csc(\Pi x)}{x}[/tex]

[tex]lim_{t \to 1} csc(\Pi x) + \frac{(csc(\Pi x)}{x}[/tex]

[tex]lim_{t \to 1} csc(\Pi * 1) + \frac{(csc(\Pi *1)}{1}[/tex]

[tex]lim_{t \to 1} csc(\Pi) + (csc(\Pi)[/tex]

[tex]lim_{t \to 1} 2csc(\Pi)[/tex]

[tex]lim_{t \to 1+} 2csc(\Pi) = +\infty[/tex]

[tex]lim_{t \to 1-} 2csc(\Pi) = -\infty[/tex]
 
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Sorry, the limit is t->1+ not t->0...
 
ok, now if I take the left hand limit and right hand limit, the right hand limit approaches infinity while the left hand appraches negative infinity?
 
Does it bother you at all that you are taking the limit as t-> 1 but there is no t in the formula?! (Mathematics requires precision- be careful what you write!)

Perhaps you meant
[tex]lim_{t \to 1^+} \frac{t+1}{tsin(\Pi t)}[/tex]

I don't see difficulty with that. The denominator is continuous and at t= 1 is [itex](1)sin(\pi)= 0[/itex] but the numerator does NOT go to 0. What does that tell you?

(Don't capitalize "Pi"- you want \pi: [itex]\pi[/itex].)
 
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o.O... I am such a dork...

[tex]\lim_{t \to 1^+} \frac{t+1}{tsin(\pi t)} = -\infty[/tex] as [tex]t \to 1^+[/tex]
 
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