Find the minimal polynomial with real root

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The discussion centers on finding the minimal polynomial with the root \( \frac{21}{3} + \frac{21}{2} \). The polynomial identified is \( x^6 - 6x^4 - 4x^3 + 12x^2 - 24x - 4 \). Participants suggest using the Rational Root Theorem to determine the presence of rational roots and discuss the limitations of Eisenstein's criterion for irreducibility in this context. Alternative methods for verifying the minimal polynomial include examining the dimension of the vector space spanned by \( \sqrt[3]{2} + \sqrt{2} \).

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Find the minimal polynomial with root 21/3 + 21/2.

I would just use maple but I do not have it installed on this machine.
I found the polynomial and verified that this is indeed a root. I only have Eisenstiens criterion for determining whether it is irreducible, and I can not apply it in this case. Do you have another method? I have not tried substituting x=x+1 or x=x-1 or other substitutions.

The polynomial is x6-6x4-4x3+12x2-24x-4
 
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Try computing [itex][ \mathbb{Q}(\sqrt[3]{2} + \sqrt{2}) : \mathbb{Q} ][/itex].

Or... the dimension of the vector space spanned by powers of [itex]\sqrt[3]{2} + \sqrt{2}[/itex].

Or... something else that would tell you information about the minimal polynomial.
 
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Daveyboy said:
Find the minimal polynomial with root 21/3 + 21/2.

I would just use maple but I do not have it installed on this machine.
I found the polynomial and verified that this is indeed a root. I only have Eisenstiens criterion for determining whether it is irreducible, and I can not apply it in this case. Do you have another method? I have not tried substituting x=x+1 or x=x-1 or other substitutions.

The polynomial is x6-6x4-4x3+12x2-24x-4

You don't need to show the polynomial is irreducible, do you? You just want to show it has no rational roots. Look at the rational root test. If that has a rational root, the root must divide 4.
 

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