Find the minimum perimeter of a triangle with these constraints

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The discussion focuses on finding the minimum perimeter of a triangle given specific constraints involving vectors and angles. The initial approach involves setting up a quadratic inequality in terms of the variable λ, leading to conditions on the vector BA. The conclusion reached is that the minimum perimeter occurs when |BA| is 2 and θ is π/2, resulting in a minimum perimeter of 3 + √5. The final strategy proposed involves placing points B and C at (0,0) and (1,0) respectively, and determining that the minimal perimeter occurs when y is set to 2.

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My attempt:
$$|\vec{BA} -\lambda \vec {BC}| \geq 2|\vec {BC}|$$
$$|\vec {BA}|^2 -2 \lambda (\vec {BA} \cdot \vec {BC}) +\lambda ^{2} |\vec {BC}|^2 \geq 4|\vec {BC}|^2$$
$$|\vec {BA}|^2 -2 \lambda |\vec {BA}| \cos \theta +\lambda ^{2} \geq 4$$

Am I even on the right track?

Thanks
 
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It's a good start
By rearranging so that the RHS is zero you get a quadratic in ##\lambda## that must always be more than zero, which means it must have no real roots, which means the discriminant (##b^2-4ac##) must be negative. That will give you some constraints on ##\bar{BA}## which you can then use to work out the minimum perimeter triangle.
 
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It's a good start
By rearranging so that the RHS is zero you get a quadratic in ##\lambda## that must always be more than zero, which means it must have no real roots, which means the discriminant (##b^2-4ac##) must be negative. That will give you some constraints on ##\bar{BA}## which you can then use to work out the minimum perimeter triangle.
$$\lambda^2-2 \lambda |\vec {BA}| \cos \theta+|\vec {BA}|^2 -4 \geq 0$$

Using D ≤ 0 :
$$4 |\vec {BA}|^2 \cos^2 \theta-4|\vec{BA}|^2+16 \leq0$$
$$-|\vec {BA}|^2 \sin^2 \theta +4\leq0$$
$$|\vec{BA}|^2 \sin^2 \theta \geq 4$$

The maximum value of ##\sin^2 \theta## is 1 so the minimum value of ##|\vec{BA}|^2## is 4 and the minimum value of ##|\vec{BA}|## is 2

By taking ##|\vec{BA}|=2## and ##\theta = \frac{\pi}{2}##, I got ##|AC|=\sqrt{5}## so the minimum perimeter is ##3+\sqrt{5}##

Where is my mistake? Thanks
 
Following your strategy, I get the same (wrong) result. I guess it is the cosine that leads to the mistake. ##\phi## isn't independent of ##A## so you cannot treat it as a constant.

How about the following strategy:

We may assume ##B=(0,0)## and ##C=(1,0)## and ##A=(x,y)## with ##y>0.##
Then the condition reads ##\sqrt{(x-\lambda )^2+y^2}\geq 2## which implies ##y\geq 2.##
The minimal perimeter is then ##1+\sqrt{x^2+y^2}+\sqrt{(x-1)^2+y^2}## which is obviously minimal for ##y=2.## Thus we have to minimize the function ##f(x)=\sqrt{x^2+4}+\sqrt{(x-1)^2+4}.##
 
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Thank you very much andrewkirk and fresh_42
 

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