Find the percentage loss in the purchase and sale of bananas

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The discussion revolves around calculating the percentage loss in the purchase and sale of bananas, where the cost price of 10 bananas is equal to the selling price of 12 bananas. Participants explore the relationships between cost price and selling price, as well as the implications of these relationships on profit and loss calculations.

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  • Some participants attempt to derive the loss percentage using algebraic expressions involving cost price and selling price. Others question the validity of initial equations and suggest alternative interpretations of the problem setup. There are discussions about the definitions of profit and loss ratios and how they relate to the given scenario.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various approaches and questioning assumptions. Some have provided insights into the calculation process, while others have pointed out potential errors in reasoning or calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the correct method, but several productive lines of inquiry are being explored.

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Some participants express uncertainty about their mathematical skills and the economic concepts involved. There are mentions of missing steps in calculations and the need for clearer explanations of the relationships between cost and selling prices.

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Homework Statement
The cost price of ##10## bananas is equal to the selling price of ##12## bananas. Find the percentage loss.
Relevant Equations
Buying price and selling price
Ok my approach on this, i let the cost price = ##x##, then it follows that cost price per banana will be given by;

##\frac {x}{10}##=##\frac {x}{12}##
##\frac {x}{10}-\frac {x}{12}##= loss
##x####\left[ \frac {1}{10}-\frac {1}{12}\right]##=loss
##x####\left[ \frac {1}{6}\right]##=loss
therefore the percentage loss is ##\frac {1}{6}##×##100##= ##16.666666##%

note;
i do not have the solution...and my working steps may not be correct...
 
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chwala said:
Homework Statement:: The cost price of ##10## bananas is equal to the selling price of ##12## bananas.
Find the percentage loss.
Relevant Equations:: Buying price and selling price

Ok my approach on this, i let the cost price = ##x##, then it follows that cost price per banana will be given by;

##\frac {x}{10}##=##\frac {x}{12}##
This equation makes no sense. The only solution is x = 0.
chwala said:
##\frac {x}{10}-\frac {x}{12}##= loss
##x####\left[ \frac {1}{10}-\frac {1}{12}\right]##=loss
##x####\left[ \frac {1}{6}\right]##=loss
therefore the percentage loss is ##\frac {1}{6}##×##100##= ##16.666666##%

note;
i do not have the solution...and my working steps may not be correct...
 
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I am not good at economics at all and assumed that gain ratio is ##\frac{s-c}{s}=1-\frac{c}{s}## where c is cost or buying price and s is selling price. It would become loss ratio with minus sign when it is negative, e.g. -25% gain equals 25% loss.
 
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Mark44 said:
This equation makes no sense. The only solution is x = 0.
Mark hi, true the very first equation ##\left[ \frac {x}{10}=\frac {x}{12}\right]## does not make sense.

On follow up (my thinking is based on) let us let the cost price be ##x=40##=selling price,... then loss will be given by; the equation,
##\left[ \frac {40}{10}-\frac {40}{12}\right]##=loss per banana. From this i should get the loss percentage directly as indicated in post ##1##. The problem i have probably is on the required form of the equation.
 
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anuttarasammyak said:
I am not good at economics at all and assumed that gain ratio is ##\frac{s-c}{s}=1-\frac{c}{s}## where c is cost or buying price and s is selling price. It would become loss ratio with minus sign when it is negative, e.g. -25% gain equals 25% loss.
Profit and loss are normally measured against the initial capital, not the income. For example, if you start with $100 and end up with $75, then that is a 25% loss, not a 33.3% loss.

Certainly if you lost all your money that would be 100% loss and not an undefined loss!
 
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Thanks. I am poor at literacy of these kinds. In more physical sense output/input is ##\frac{s}{c}##. Say it is 75%, loss is 25%. I hope I am on a right way.
 
"The cost price of 10 bananas is equal to the selling price of 12 bananas."

Doesn't that mean that you're selling at 10/12 (5/6) of your buying price, and buying at 12/10 (120%) of your selling price? ##-## if so, then you're paying 12 and getting 10, so out of every 12 you're putting in, you're losing 2, and 12 divided by 2 is 6, so you're losing 1/6 (16(recurring 6)%), right?
 
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Your answer is correct, but your working is not - or at least, you're missing out some steps, which makes it unclear. You write:
chwala said:
x[1/10−1/12]=loss
x[1/6]=loss
Now 1/10 - 1/12 = 1/60, and the loss per banana is x/60. But since the cost per banana is x/10, the fractional loss is (x/60)/(x/10) = 1/6.
 
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mjc123 said:
Your answer is correct, but your working is not - or at least, you're missing out some steps, which makes it unclear. You write:

Now 1/10 - 1/12 = 1/60, and the loss per banana is x/60. But since the cost per banana is x/10, the fractional loss is (x/60)/(x/10) = 1/6.
Just check your subtraction again...I see a mistake in your working.
True, my steps are not entirely correct...
 
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1/10 - 1/12 = 6/60 - 5/60 = 1/60. Confirm with a calculator.
 
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mjc123 said:
1/10 - 1/12 = 6/60 - 5/60 = 1/60. Confirm with a calculator.
True, i missed that...:frown:
 
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mjc123 said:
Your answer is correct, but your working is not - or at least, you're missing out some steps, which makes it unclear. You write:

Now 1/10 - 1/12 = 1/60, and the loss per banana is x/60. But since the cost per banana is x/10, the fractional loss is (x/60)/(x/10) = 1/6.
...that makes sense...i.e in business math we know that;
Loss/Profit=##\left[\frac {cost price- sale price}{cost price}\right]##...then percentage loss or profit would follow by,
Percentage Loss/Profit=##\left[\frac {cost price- sale price}{cost price}\right]×100##.
 

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